44 Times More Power Output than Input

[tinman]

Mt question is-how do the magnets actualy rotate,if set up like the pic bellow??.

[MileHigh]

Tinman:

The hollow cylinder magnets rotate because they are never perfectly symmetrical about the main axis with respect to the magnetic field they produce.  There is always an asymmetrical "lump" in the magnetic field and therefore that extra repulsion/attraction creates torque and gives you a motor.

MileHigh

[tinman]

Tinman:

The hollow cylinder magnets rotate because they are never perfectly symmetrical about the main axis with respect to the magnetic field they produce.  There is always an asymmetrical "lump" in the magnetic field and therefore that extra repulsion/attraction creates torque and gives you a motor.

MileHigh

MH
While i agree in what you are saying,i cant see that slight ofset being enough to turn a small DC motor-not to mention that it is coupled via a belt. Then to place a 10 ohm load across that small motor that is being used as a generator,and still have it turn?.
The inconsistancy in the magnetic field surely wouldnt be enough to give that kind of torque output,also concidering the very small amount of P/in to the coil itself.
Something else must be happening here.
Looking at the setup,with the motors placed in close proximity to the pulsing coil,is it possable that the rotor coils them self,inside the small motors are also recieving some sort of transformer like power from the inductor?.
The other thing to concider is this-if it was the case,that it is only the inconsistant magnetic field around the PM that is causing rotation,why not just use diametrically magnetised magnet's?.

The inconsistant field on the PM's wouldnt cause rotation while the magnet is placed flat on the coil,as shown in other video's. Then there is the video,where the magnet is rotating while on the table next to the coil-not on the coil.
We must also rember that the coil is pulsed with a DC pulse,so a rise and fall of the same magnetic field.

The other thing is,that the magnets these day's are fairly good in quality. And as he is using NeFeB,one tends to think the field would be preaty even all round.

With the slight imperfections within the field of the PM's,and looking at the P/in-i see no way that that is what is giving the rotational torque.

P/in=
V-.27
A-.012.
Motor specs
High Speed Reversible DC Motor (9-18 V), 1 1/8" OD w/2
mm shaft (available at Radio Shack)
P/in measured with protec true RMS DMM.

Now,i dont know what you think,but that P/in would go no where near close to driving one of those motors alone-and yet he runs 5 of them.
Even without any P/out from the motor's,he has achieved the very near imposable just getting those 5 motors to rotate with such a small P/in to the coil.

[MileHigh]

Tinman:

I remember seeing cylindrical magnets on a wire in the clip just like your drawing so that's all I was discussing.  The motor business is another aspect that I saw but didn't bother investigating.  I don't have the desire and there is too much to dig into.  I have already discounted the clip and there is nothing there from what I could see.  Plus the nasty fact that combinations of coils, magnets, motors etc are a kind of "fool's gold" that you see over and over.

MileHigh

[ramset]

Fools Gold Huh?
The nasty combinations that might lead to something wonderful......
Sort of like our Planet ,a piece of rock in a vast void of space hurdling through a sea of nothingness,and then a few nasty combinations come along and suddenly there is something from nothing.

I see this fellow Tinman as a man that lives in such a place as planet earth who can recognize there is much more here then might have passed accross the bench of MH over the years,and perhaps this Man Jeff Cook has seen a bit of that himself?

Perhaps a symphony just waiting for the musicians to play the right combination and make some beautiful music which the Earth has not yet seen?

I appreciate men Like Brad  and Jeff  and the curiosity which brings them to places where men Try to make our world a better place and perhaps learn something new along the way.

I also appreciate your efforts MH,sometimes I think they need a little more Breathing room.
thx
Chet