Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

[gotoluc]

Lights flickers several times during start up – that's normal, of course. But what's abnormal is they flicker when the "self-powering switch" it turned on (at 01:08). Go figure...

Hi Tinu and all,

to be fare to this experimenter I must bring to your attention that what you think is lights flickering when he switches to loop mode may not be correct.
The change in light density is caused by the camera panning and the cameras arpature changing for the different light condition compared to the work bench. Notice the light density changes before you here the click of the switch.

Again, part of the wiring is done through the metal chassis?!

Yes, he used parts the chassis as wire conduit!... I would of done the same to protect the wires and make the device look clean. Noticed his shop is clean and organized. So his device will also be made this way.

And, like tak22 noticed above, the contraption is conveniently placed on wooden boards and, moreover, quite close to the power outlet despite the fact that power cord is several meters long. Also, I'm pretty sure that the wooden board extending under that working bench (and under that wooden box too!) was pure accidentally placed there and nothing is hidden underneath...

Do you not think it's possible that one wood support board was purposely extended so to give a little extra side to side support in case someone or something would bump into it?... as he made his frame very narrow, probably to save space and claim it takes a small footprint. The wooden box looks like it has things in it and could be used as a weight.

Not to mention that if I've had a device like that, it is absolutely certain I would've started it mechanically. Wouldn't you?!

Judging the size of the induction motor I would say it is 3 to 5 HP so, are you saying you would start it mechanically by hand?... if so I don't think a person can output that much HP

From my most recent experience, I would not be so quick to say this device is a fake.

Luc

[e2matrix]

tinu,  thanks for your response in clarifying some things.  It was in a personal email to him that he said they would be ready in 3 weeks.   In regards to his wood base on the metal frame -- if I had built that I would have also put it on a wood base.   It looked to me like his shop had a dirt floor and the way that setup runs and the weight of that big motor it would probably dig itself into the dirt and be less stable.   I could see it easily tipping over without some long boards attached to the base.   I won't be so quick to dismiss this as fake either.  He has a regular business seling wind, solar and so on.   Does he want to risk his business by selling something that does not do what he claims?   


tinu,  Are you in Romania?   If so don't you think it would be at least worth talking to the guy even if there is only a 1% chance that this is the real thing?   I have seen enough evidence over the last 20 plus years that flywheel based setups may be tapping energy in a way we have been kept in the dark about.   There are a lot of people that have stated this is possible including some very well known and respected researchers / inventors.   


I had a friend some years ago from Romania who was a scientist.   She is in the U.S.  and although I've lost contact with her if I could find a way to contact her I might try seeing if she can help out with this as she regularly would visit Romania.   Unless someone else checks this out I won't give up hope on this just based on speculation.   



gotoluc,  thanks for your input on this too.   



tinman, since your in Australia have you ever tried to contact or see Chas Campbell's setup?   He seemed sincere in his work and wasn't asking for any money and wasn't even trying to sell his concept.   Seems I remember it was more of a "This is my free gift to the world" sort of deal.   

[tinu]

 Hi Gotuluc,

I've already considered the possibility of light flickering due to panning but it was obvious to me the case here is a change in light coming from the bulb not in aperture.  A change in aperture would affect the luminosity of the whole image not just of parts of it. Here, the change in light intensity is visible in the left side of the image, most notably on the workbench but not on other sides, namely where the light from the bulb is either not casted or is too low in intensity due to distance. Also, it seemed almost certain to me that the camera is fixed aperture (and fixed focal length) but I suspect we are departing from the main subject.

However, I made a slight error because time is not exactly 01:08 like I wrote yesterday but fractions of a second before 01:08. That is before panning (read walking) toward the control panel. Flickering is clearly visible on the workbench and simultaneously the sound of accelerating motor is heard. That's when the young guy turns on the "Mot ON" switch and its sound is there too, although not very clear. Please note there are two switches, the one under the voltmeter is turned on a second later and its sound is more clear but of no relevance here.

So yes, I might be wrong in principle but I insist there is strong evidences in this particular instance I'm right. I firmly believe that "Mot ON" switch supplies power to the motor which is taken from the outlet and the incandescence bulb proves it without much doubts imho.

Regarding other issues, I can agree with you but not when one pretends he has discovered the creation of energy from nothing. "An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof." -  Marcello Truzzi

By mechanical start I was thinking to a friction device apart from the system and ideally powered by anything else except electricity, eventually a small gasoline engine. That way I could have drove with it into the woods and proving with fewer doubts the device really works as advertised.

I look forward to hear from your recent experience,
Tinu

[tinu]

 Hi e2matrix,

On issues:
Floor is concrete. Not of the best quality and quite thin and cracked but still concrete.
I couldn't see a single client in his portofolio so I can't tell if he really has a business or just a website claiming that.
As for contacting him, I am 100% convinced he is a fraud so I would do more harm than good.
Yes I'm in Romania but I'm in Bucharest and by the phone number they are in North of Romania, some 500km away.
Don't use google translate for Romanian language. It sucks. Better use Spanish instead – I read their website saying they've came back from Spain so presumably they shall speak Spanish. Alternatively, I can help translating your messages (assuming you will not fall in love so to write each other huge letters). PM me if you want it.
Despite the distance from my residence, I still might be able to do a field check in several weeks if you get their agreement for it. That's the area where I could really help, especially because of my beliefs (of fraud, in this case)[/font]. I have enough expertise  (I'm physicist) but unfortunately not much testing equipment to take with me at their location. But do you really think you'll ever get their agreement for inspecting the "merchandise" before anything else?
Wanna bet?

Best regards,
Tinu

[Temporal Visitor]

Hello E2,

Notice you mention; "I have seen enough evidence over the last 20 plus years that flywheel based setups may be tapping energy in a way we have been kept in the dark about."

I'll point out that the "energy" that keeps this type of device (if not a cheat - and I do not judge it) in motion is simply kinetic energy developed in the solid matter of the flywheel when in motion.

Kinetic energy that is converted to mechanical energy and again converted to electrical power.  Of course we know the motor uses only electricity to produce mechanical energy known as Horsepower.

Folks: you are all intelligent - please do not say you "Just don't get it". - you "want data" - if that is true then look here:http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-... find and download the "calculator".
Watch the short 10 minute video presentation about DEVELOPING Kinetic energy & HORSEPOWER.

You can do it also, and I would enjoy trying to help you.

My frame by frame close up review of Valy's video and the suspect board leads me to believe it is simply a board with a side that did not clean up as many low quality boards exhibit the same appearance. I just do not know one way or the other for certain, keep an open mind.

Best wishes to all................. till we meet again. Hopefully very sooooooooon.