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Overunity Machines Forum



Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

Started by e2matrix, September 30, 2013, 01:27:23 PM

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Temporal Visitor

Hello Vince,

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PM
Hey Guys
If you are following this thread, please take the time to view Temporal Visitors site more thoroughly.

Very nice, I could not have written it any more clearly. Page skimming will not allow you to see what is freely presented in an effort to HELP you all.

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PMI think you will see that he is not asking for money or anything else. In fact he's is freely sharing his experience and knowledge on the subject.

What is asked for is your help to go  further.  Though not complete, anyone can find a rough idea for help is laid out. Few even click on any of that. Think carefully as you read "Helping Hands" and the  underlying pages, know that alone no man can do it all. - Not a one of you - us - or myself. Read it all - even the parts of  it many of you reject.

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PMHis design is openly displayed with many details albeit sometimes in low resolution. The machine he has constructed is quite impressive and shows someone who has put a lot of thought, work and money into it.

I design and build machines for a living - this cost me plenty - doing websites is not my specialty. Low res for several reasons, primarily software related. Anyone care enough to volunteer their help???

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PM@ Temporal visitor,
Thankyou  for sharing your design and information but I'm sure that a few questions answered might help us better understand. Why did you scavenge the machine for parts? Was it for an improved design? when the machine did run did it self power?

You are very welcome. (A refreshing reply for a change, thanks Vince.)

Why? = Because the "ELE" like every design has been a test bed and learning tool. Not a "final production" unit. Each has provided challenges and realizations/revelations that caused and causes revisions.  Revisions on top of revisions are not always pretty. The ELE was scavenged for the more expensive parts to be reused in subsequent designs, why buy them over and over. The main problem with the ELE is not a lack of "power", "force", "energy", "output"  but rather TOO MUCH. So much so that it was breaking mechanical parts.

Was? = Yes, many things were learned and a complete redesign (actually many) were done, built and also tested, the results were similar.

When? = Yes and no. Yes because it did have the "energy" to do so, No because it lacked several KEYS that are required to do so, and those KEYS were not even recognized at that time.

It, Gen-E-Sys II is a technology not a device. All efforts have been and remain toward a production worthy unit that is practical.

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PMAs I understand it, what you are basically telling us that the secret to self powering machines is in the simple lever and flywheel.  Your solution as I have perceived it is to rotate a heavy flywheel with a motor and extract power from it in pulses by using cleverly designed links or levers to tap the energy at specific points in rotation. You do this in various stages and isolate the load from the prime mover in doing so.

You are sharp, but no - know it is not just lever and flywheel. They are major KEYS that need to be understood before moving forward, and why I chose to provide the basic flywheel calculator first. Nor am I clever - I just work hard - and frankly it is getting harder to continue.

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PMIt's a clever notion but not entirely unique.  The pendulum pump uses a method not too different from yours in that a large pendulum (flywheel) moves an axel in and out and taps the out stroke momentarily to operate a pump thereby using a pulse of the energy to power a pump.  The pendulum is kept moving with relatively less energy than would be required to operate the pump from human input.

Concerning the "ELE" I agree, it is straight forward physics - common sense - classical mechanics - using off the shelf motors, generators and other parts. The advanced designs: well, they are something(s) entirely different.

Quote from: vince on October 06, 2013, 04:21:58 PMI am truly fascinated by your design and hope you will share more information on your build and it's performance.

Vince, so you know: I am honored, and impressed by your reply (several others also) and I truly hope more will follow your example and style. I have given what I can.
Share more = Think: "Helping Hands" and as you look at the photo of the old man, sitting alone, ask yourself: How much can one man give?
Everyone wants something different. - Sharing works best as a two way street.
Please make "Contact" on the site for more information.

e2matrix

vince,  great to see you here!    For info for Temporal Visitor,  vince was part of a group that was involved in investigating another motor generator from a somewhat mysterious person who suddenly disappeared shortly after I put a web site forum together at his request so we could work in a semi-private group with that person.   vince was in that group and probably did more toward building and trying various motor setups than anyone else in the group.   
I've had some private messages with Temporal Visitor and have been trying to get the time to talk to him as I really believe he has some great knowledge.   I also know some things I won't discuss here as it's personal to Temporal Visitor but I'll just say it will be good to have as much contact with him as soon as possible regarding his work.   I need to get my own butt in gear in that regard too.   

e2matrix

Quote from: captainfletcher on October 06, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Beware Temporary Guest! only 6 posts in this forum and you direct us to your website with the intention of receiving money.
Your website pushes open doors.
We are tired of reading long written Journès types claiming to have discovered a new machine and Overunity without providing solid evidence.
Try to collect money unnecessarily is repressible by the law of all countries.
It may be that one day someone will complain against you, it may cost you.
If you're really honest, give humanity that you claim to have invented. If this is still the blank as usual.
LOL,  beware captainfletcher with only 3 posts here telling others to beware of someone I know well from another forum who has only been here a little but is known to me as one of the 'Good Guys' and BTW he is very altruistic IMO and not at all looking for money.   I very well understand where he is coming from in that regard and while I feel I can't openly discuss some of the info in this regard I know he is not a scammer looking just for $$$ .   He really wants to give something to the people of this planet and may need a little help in various ways to do so for reasons I won't discuss here.     I'm not trying to be secretive but he has shared some things with me that I'm not sure he wants public (nothing in regards to how the device works - just personal).   

markdansie

Having traveled to many countries and seen similar devices I can assure you there is no overunity, free energy on this. This is actually a bad faked device. I have seen much better, especially out of Africa.
Kind regards
mark

ariovaldo

Quote from: markdansie on October 07, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Having traveled to many countries and seen similar devices I can assure you there is no overunity, free energy on this. This is actually a bad faked device. I have seen much better, especially out of Africa.
Kind regards
mark


Even knowing that was not possible, I built that using a conventional motor/generator (sculpture)...Guess what?...Didn't work. I tried several capacitor values. Next steps, disassemble it.
Kind regards...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5Njxw-Y2zPU