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Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.

Started by synchro1, September 30, 2013, 01:47:45 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: synchro1 on December 27, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
@Conradelektro,

That's what everyone's fraught with anticipation to finally see. I did have one last question for you; What gauge magnet wire do you plan to wrap the magnet bobbin with?

The "synchro coil" will be wound with 31 AWG magnet wire (0.22 mm wire diameter). See the attached drawing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge#Tables_of_AWG_wire_sizes

Synchro1, how many layers of wire do you suggest? Is the wire gauge about right?

Each layer will have about 120 to 130 wire turns (60 to 65 bifilar turns).

I can wind 5 or 10 layers, or more. With 10 layers the coil winding will be only 2 to 3 mm thick.

I hope that everybody is patient, the year end holiday season it is bad time of the year for doing experiments. It would be nice if others could do the experiment as well.

I also hope that MileHigh and other experts forgive Synchro1 his bad way of writing and stay in this thread. Expertise is very much needed to see through all the bold claims and to come to an understanding of the actual facts. One needs a thick skin in the OU forums.

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

@Conradelektro,


                        That wire looks perfect! The coil bobbin is much longer then the ordinary output coil, so you're wraps will be greater then normal judged from thickness. 1000 to 1200 turns is plenty and you can expect some nice hi-voltage.

                         It's important to look at Lidmotor's "Flux field generator" video. He removes the tiny spinning magnet sphere from "Maggie" and the LED'S go out, because at that distance the coil does not receive any cross cutting induction from the magnet rotor, nor does it create any "Lenz drag". Lidmotor then places the output coil closer to the spinning rotor, and demonstrates the "induction effect" at that reduced distance. The "Synchro Coil" operates on the same principle. The power is generated by the "Flux field perturbations" not the rotor induction. The coil optimally is positioned just "outside the induction range".

               Think how utterly inane it would be to suggest testing "Lidmotor's "Maggie" with different core materials other then the neo magnet sphere when the coil is seated too far from the power rotor to be effected by the rotor induction. The same holds true for the "Synchro Coil".

Just look at this malarky from MH:

Synchro's concise explanation,

"The magnet core coil is designed to generate power from within, not from the spinning rotor".

Wise guy know it all response from MH:

"That's another unsubstantiated claim and science says that will not happen".  

This "Synchro magnet core flux field generator coil" is hundreds of times overunity, and has nothing to do with the ordinary induction coil.
                     
                           
                   

                             

synchro1

What would happen if you removed the radial magnet stack and replaced it with a ferrite core outside the induction zone? Nothing, the same as an air core, zero output! The flux field is rotating independently of the the magnet rotor outside the induction zone on the quantum plane! Removing the magnet stack and pushing the coil into the induction zone would be the equivalent of using a Rolex watch for a lead sinker.


This magnet core flux field generator coil is what I would call a "Radial Ring Maggie". Axial magnetized rings or tubes will not work anywhere near as well because the fields will not intersect the coil wraps on the perpendicular.

conradelektro

Unfortunately the "synchro coil" does not show any unexpected effects.

Finally I could test my replication of a "synchro coil".

Coil parameters:

- length 30 mm, core diameter 10 mm, about 500 turns bifilar with 0.22 mm magnet wire (AWG 31)

- DC resistance: about 28 Ohm each wire, wires in series about 56 Ohm (therefore a 59 Ohm shunt was used to measure output with a scope, true RMS)

- air core inductance L = 32 mH (8 mH each wire)

- magnet stack core inductance L = 34 mH (8,6 mH each wire)

The "synchro coil" behaves about in the same way with air core or with "magnet stack core". This is consistent with the observation that its inductance is about the same with air core or with "magnet stack core".

The output of the "synchro coil" is about the same with air core or with "magnet stack core". The output is very low because the rotor has little torque and the coil was placed at a distance to the rotor which does not slow down the rotor much. At this distance the out put is in the order of 400 µW. Further away from the rotor the output drops rapidly and closer to the rotor the rotor stops soon.

Please see the attached photos and drawings.

Synchro1, it seems that you have a lot of misconceptions about this type of coil. I could not see any "neutral zone" around the rotor (spinning magnet) by slowly moving the coil closer to and farer from the rotor. The output of the coil (air core or magnet core) decreases in a regular way when moved away from the rotor (as one would expect).

Greetings, Conrad

synchro1

@Conradelektro,


                        Try doubling your rotor strength, or striping half the wire off that coil. You're picking up too much induction! I advised you not to let coil face exceed three eighths of an inch.


                         Try just one wrap of wire for me. Just one layer, and compare the results to give it a fair chance. It's functioning as an induction coil. Keep the principles in mind. The coil is way over wound. Strip the wire down to the very bare minimum and retry it. Don't give up too soon.


                          Take a look at the size speed and magnet strength of Lidmotor's neo sphere spinner with the two smaller neo's attached.  Compare the flux he's generating to the size of his tiny satillite neo inside "Maggie" satellite. Your rotor is very slow and weak compared to his. Your flux field is very deficient compared to his, and completely overwhelmed by the amount of wire you have in close proximity.


                          You would need to spin a two inch diameter magnet at high rpm to deliver a comparative field. Have you ever tried spinning a powerful high speed bearinglees neodymium sphere like Lidmotor's? This is the kind of rotor I got my results with. You're going to have to jetisen nearly all you coil wire to get positive results with that weak and slow a rotor.