Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)

[Hoppy]

Yes Nick, agreed - totally unsuitable as a basis for domestic electricity distribution.

[jbignes5]

Well,


As for an unsuitable power source lets look at the three kinds together.


AC is very dirty and is a cause of many documented bad effects on humans. And that is just in your house. Lets look at the Iron men version and the effects of Higher voltage AC on humans that lived under and around those Iron men..... Really when you start to look at AC it gets very bad.


RF is extremely dangerous to all living beings around the towers. Who knows what long term  low levels can do to you. Right now they are correlating the health effects of phone RF on the human brain and the formations of tumors and other health effects. AS well as interference that an improperly tuned or designed RF unit can cause.


Impulse technology as told by Tesla doesn't have these problems or nearly as many. The fix for this is to have the transmitter and receiver away from the point of usage. Remember Akula had both right next to each other and Tesla showed this as well from the examples I gave above.
In fact Tesla reported a properly tuned system of the proper impulses per second 2000+ is quite beneficial to the human condition. A feeling of well being and an ability to work for days non stop was reported. He even slept in the field and he said that it was very invigorating but strangely addicting.


I would also like to reiterate the differences of two distinct systems. The Akula device uses an unclean impulse technology. It is most like RF and is not true impulse technology. Real impulse technology is truely one way impulses. The real impulses of Tesla energized then relaxed and cycled through that. I am betting this akula device energizes in both directions and that is not true impulses.




Stivep1 also mentions something very weird in the translation about the speed of the sparkgap. Tesla was reporting cycles in the range of 1 million per second and higher, stive says 200,000 or so could be gotten from a spark gap. Lets look at the magnetically shunted spark gap and I'm sure the Tesla report of millions of cycles is very true.


There is nothing wrong with this system for domestic power. If there is a range of interference atm it is because we know little about true shielding of this radiant event and yes it can be shielded if the power level is not extreme. That shielding must not be grounded as well.


If we look at the second picture I have shown above we will see the flow that gets created from the earth energy. The energy is sucked up through the coil and exits the top capacitance to flow back down to the earth. We are looking at a pump. Once the flow is created the "receiver" utilizes the return energy like a generator uses the flow of water to generate from. The character of the energy returning twords the earth keeps the impulse character and that is used to create a flow from the receiving coil within the fountain like spray of the earth energy pump. Nothing says these units need to be the size of the planned Tesla Tower. They can be all sizes from tiny to larger versions.


As usual the usual suspects come to impart their wisdom without knowing anything about the process that is involved here. Statements like unsuitable for domestic distribution are unfounded and quite frankly ignorant of anything about these processes. My statement of ignorance about this process is a fact and not am insult.


In a month I will be in my new house and I will be starting my lab up soon to prove all the nay sayers wrong. Akula has shown there is a validity to the process and we need to correct the problems with his system to bring it under control. One problem I see is the impurity of the spark gap, which is adding wide band interference from the transmitter. Adding a magnetic shunt to the gap should clean this up and turn the impulses into clean impulses.

[RailGS]

Stivep1 please join me in discussing the newest video from Akula and your interpretation of that video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc




There is a lot to discuss about the similarities between Tesla's devices and someone who actually is using his methods (akula, TK and a few others).


Lets start by showing the two devices as shown by Tesla.

The transmitting device is upper left of the picture. The receivers are either double connected or single connection with a capacitive secondary connection to the ground. I also think that the ground is actually a capacitive connection when compared to the transmitter as well. But in my honest opinion I can see how that can be fixed by using an appropriate capacitor across the receiver coil as well. The receiver coil is actually a diode in a sense. It resists changes in it's field once they are established and adding iron or ferrite would also increase this resistance to change. But what would happen if the establishing field was external to the receiver coil?

I also think that if the capacitor was built into the coil itself like a bifilar coil not connected that the capacitance would be built into the coil itself and the ends of the coils could be used to extract usable energy from the receiver setup from the mono impulse electric field the transmitter was supplying. Remember my ideas about the cap coil?

Stivep1 this is a very simplified version and very workable version in my opinion. Actually this is my direction atm. What do you think?

Reference: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

[stivep]

author=jbignes5 link=topic=13863.msg372494#msg372494 date=1380894632

As for an unsuitable power source lets look at the three kinds together.

Stivep1 also mentions something very weird in the translation about the speed of the sparkgap. Tesla was reporting cycles in the range of 1 million per second and higher, stive says 200,000 or so could be gotten from a spark gap. Lets look at the magnetically shunted spark gap and I'm sure the Tesla report of millions of cycles is very true.

Well
the higher the frequency of the spark the more continuous plasma is flowing at  certain frequency  difference between  low of the pick and  high of the pick is barely  noticeable.
200khz sounds about right.
The higher  the frequency the spectrum of impurities ( harmonics of all sort) occupies  upper( higher) part of spectrum.
I could bet that Akula device does not go  higher than that.


Try to listen to my  addition to translation  in my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoISZAlFAc




And find part:
14:43 and  drown schematic out of my words


at this par of explanation I was trying to explain principals of operation with the approach as if there was no famous yoke but regular  ferrite based yokes to  stop impulse to  be transferred from the other side of it.


I'm not authorized at this time to go deeper into it as I went till now.
Please understand that I' will never be corrupted and I will never advance myself if I'm  being  hold accountable.
That is why people comes to me with  their secrets as well.
If there is no objection than  information is   posted  to the public or if the party that is requesting certain behavior is no longer credible in general  rules of  humanity  we have been born with than  my obligation is no longer  hold.


So what are the exemptions:
If there situation pushing One to change himself, say someone demands from One under the threat that  "One is a dog"
- He will admit " Yes that dog I'm."
there is nothing  wrong ,to give something only because one is threatened.[/size]
At the end there  is no[/size]
more "Spanish inquisition"- it died soon after that ,  because of One who did not die at  the first place. 

I think this is clear.
So if for any reason  you might listen to some strange statements of mine you know- that all.
So far there is no need for that
It did not happened  yet.

There is nothing wrong with this system for domestic power. If there is a range of interference and it is because we know little about true shielding of this radiant event and yes it can be shielded if the power level is not extreme. That shielding must not be grounded as well.

Yes

If we look at the second picture I have shown above we will see the flow that gets created from the earth energy. The energy is sucked up through the coil and exits the top capacitance to flow back down to the earth. We are looking at a pump. Once the flow is created the "receiver" utilizes the return energy like a generator uses the flow of water to generate from. The character of the energy returning twords the earth keeps the impulse character and that is used to create a flow from the receiving coil within the fountain like spray of the earth energy pump. Nothing says these units need to be the size of the planned Tesla Tower. They can be all sizes from tiny to larger versions.

yes that is present understanding of the phenomena.

As usual the usual suspects come to impart their wisdom without knowing anything about the process that is involved here. Statements like unsuitable for domestic distribution are unfounded and quite frankly ignorant of anything about these processes. My statement of ignorance about this process is a fact and not am insult.

agree  100%
blood suckers will gets what they deserve to get.

In a month I will be in my new house and I will be starting my lab up soon to prove all the nay sayers wrong. Akula has shown there is a validity to the process and we need to correct the problems with his system to bring it under control. One problem I see is the impurity of the spark gap, which is adding wide band interference from the transmitter. Adding a magnetic shunt to the gap should clean this up and turn the impulses into clean impulses.

interesting approach, another one will be to create  electronic square wave equivalent of spark gap and work with it trying inject it right before the very top of the impulse is being reached.
As I not  necessarily agree with Akula standing that that impulse should be given at the dying  part of the impulse.


I also do not see our hero being  so good for us to say  something at all.He is young, and misleading if there is in his direct  interest. inconsistent in his statements, adjusting himself  to changes of situation , trying to learn how the system work, - he has it but he has no explanation for what he got from it.
He  is improvising.
The pump phenomena - part of his  explanation is about right.
I see it as good explanation for the present time as we do not have anything on hand.
But also  famous yoke..............
somehow omitted in all of his talk and still present in the device.
Think guys


In first  video:
-he said that he  had to change yoke ferrite because  previous one did not work.
Well
Lithuania experiment did not have problem, with yoke as major energy extraction element.


Another possible  explanation  is that purpose of choke  is to stop  impulse to go  to the other side of it.
So if we say that  that yoke  is used only as (primary function) choke  than  why it has 3 winds on it? ??
it should be one..............




So what is that he wants? :
He needs  certain credibility to attract investors if any.
So he needs public approval.
Is that wrong?
NO it is not
Who gives anything for free.........................to anyone.......... who?
It is  only Wesley  and Arunas and Tiger and few more ........ idiots?......... maybe not so..................
Are they so good for you guys..............so  human?............ so stupid?...................


So if you listen to them they say :
No they  are not..................
They have no choice as well. They know that  giving is to humanity is the only  way to make money on it as well.
That is why they stand that energy  belongs to humanity all bad and good at no distinction .
You start firs you sold 1000 devices in one day, so is other guys as well..
What's wrong with that.
there are 6.8 billion peoples in  the planet  earth. Who cares about competition.
What is really  that you need to be happy.
House, no debts, and some  little money  for comfortable tomorrow . That is all.
If you guys  think different than you are not in my coffee table.


And your thinking is not my cup of tea

GOT IT?




Wesley

[forest]

Competition to what ? BE serious. Take a few meters of wire few simple parts, car battery and the genious of Kapanadze and you got 5-10 kW . Costs you a few bucks really...if you know what Tariel knows. The problem is sophisticaed because of nature of human. We likes to complicate and the more complicated the more it is attractive and precious while it is really a crap, while a thing looking like crap is usable...