Stivep1: Tesla Rehash (Akula device)

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For safety,  perhaps you can digitize a recorded Tesla output and record it and use it as your source.  This way you can vary all parts of the source signal  (even mix them a multiple of times if you wish).  I would think playing one forward and one backward and mixing them would produce a perfect null,  but if you get ANY additional output it would be from where?  For those of us who do not have a Tesla coil maybe you could post it in downloads for us as a .wav file.   

[Hope]

I hate web browsers... I lose so many thoughts so many times.




Re akula's coil schematic;


what is Elk. magnet?   does it just go to the chart?  Ya, but the chart is 'bi-synchronization unit' which has two jumpers on it... I think that peice is missing schematically.


so the other end of 2..   is that just a capacitor? it doesn't have resonance?  Is it just a stepup from (4)


3: output coil; located at intersection of 1 and (unlabeled, tesla coil)
1: interacts with (unlabeled, tesla coil), and I would assume (2) but maybe it's just the exciter (4).
  - the aluminum forms a topload... which will be coupled with the capacitance of the (unlabeled)


2: again, is it just an LC tank? is it high resistance and low capacitance?


considering Dally's scheme; he has an LC tank; loop antenna, but this is only effective in the near frequencies... it'll fail as the system drifts, so probably this is a thing that should be added after; otherwise it's the intersection of a resonant tank of a stepup toroid and an inner coil, and the outside is a high potential pulse;  when the load has a poor inductance matching on my mazilli I can get such a pulse.  The pulse shows up as a postiive potential on all conductors in the area.... that is the other coils don't induce it, because both ends are both positive... and yes the scope probes themselves in the area also sense it, but it is more significant when attached to another conductor.... But both intersect on the output coil.


A) neither have a ferrous core.
b) a copper strip pickup and grounds that run through coils aren't required... Though a inductor passing through a ferrite tube does increase its inductance...


the copper is also (maybe) a single turn winding?  It's not closed, and there's no connection except to the air, which is to the other tesla coil.... so it really looks more like a topload.




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highest potential, higher frequency (3x)
higher potential, frequency (x)


tuning the exciting side to the side it drives is also a +




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Having read eric dollard's books, lone pine writings, and the 4 quadrant theory thing, I have a better appreciation of the dynamics of this.  He's a good translator between maxwell-steinmetz and me


I had this one mobius coil that was 4 layers.... it worked OK, but I really kinda didn't like it, like there was just something wrong with it.  I think layers matter a lot in this case...


5 layers...


exciter, pickup, output, pickup, exciter
low inductance, high-medium inductance, low-medium inductance, high inductance, low inductance
1, 5, 3, 9, 2

dally would additionally include another stepup before 1...
1,10-1,5,3,9,2   (10-1 is in parallel, with a capacitor)...

I know I'm not making sense, just sketching an idea..... but really

1:x (out) 3x:1

Okay here's where coil dynamics confuse me.

X inductance is going to be less than the tesla's inductance.  But yet, has a lower frequency.

The tesla's inductance is going to have a huge penalty because of length... but having a higher voltage, it's frequency is higher?  but then specifically it's resonant frequency, which includes capacitive reactance, so I guess there's just a lot more capacitance on (1)

but then there's the consideration of just length of wire, which itself has a wavelength.... but again the longer wire in the tesla is going to be a lower frequency... so if I project multiple waves on the coil... so only a small portion at the bottom is induced with the secondary... then the ... stupid rotational phase thing can align on a higher frequency, giving multiple node points in the tesla tower... maybe a quarter wave of the quarter wave?  It's driven not free oscillating...

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no words from akula in a while; did he run into technical difficulties?  I hope all is well.  I see others replicating too; this time I don't have a strong desire to be the first replication... but I think I can build a functional model... akula's system looks fairly robust; in that the logic follows the tuning, so having the coils, he should just be able to plug in the logic parts and demonstrate power?  Maybe he waiting for a sufficient load?

Some of his last interactions, make me think that he's not actually the guy in the videos?  he's questioning things on dally's and criticising other inventors instead of just going ahead with his own installation?  I dunno I think too much probably; he complained that the content was pirated on stive's channel... or was he saying that he had pirated it?


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I was playing with a particle simulation, simple gravity, electrostatic, magnetic behavior on particles... so I was modelling the magnetism, and playing with magnets, trying to establish the forces.... If two magnets are aligned with their poles to the north, and then offset so they can be passed by each other's sides, so the north is forced to remain up, the torque force increases, up to the point that the plane of the south pole passes the plane of the north pole... almost asymptotically but then starts to repel that pole instead of attracting the south to face the north, and a lateral translation force starts to apply more also.

Somewhat reminds me that when having a scope on AC, there is a spikey effect at the very top of the wave... but that's probably a comosite of all the reactance from the system... since most things are bridge rectified first, the 0.7V difference in switching time's... But maybe as the north and south pass each other there's a significantly higher force than would be expected.

If you use notepad first and cut and paste you will NOT be hating it as much.  I do it for all my messaging systems since I too have had lots of "issues" losing the whole task way to many times.  I use it for any website that has message posting and it works far better and consistently that those time out messaging utilities.

[Hope]

Parcial Quote

In a month I will be in my new house and I will be starting my lab up soon to prove all the nay sayers wrong. Akula has shown there is a validity to the process and we need to correct the problems with his system to bring it under control. One problem I see is the impurity of the spark gap, which is adding wide band interference from the transmitter. Adding a magnetic shunt to the gap should clean this up and turn the impulses into clean impulses.

I can kinda see why it would give so much "noise" with all the surrounding elements floating in the air turning to plasma.  Without physical enclosure in a vacuum and magnetic full shielding you will have lots of noise mixed in the output signal.

[stivep]

that is nice schematic.c thank you for  help.
I have much more to say  but for now  I'm so busy with other things
I'll be back soon with more
Wesley

[br549]

For safety,  perhaps you can digitize a recorded Tesla output and record it and use it as your source.  This way you can vary all parts of the source signal  (even mix them a multiple of times if you wish).  I would think playing one forward and one backward and mixing them would produce a perfect null,  but if you get ANY additional output it would be from where?  For those of us who do not have a Tesla coil maybe you could post it in downloads for us as a .wav file.

Hope: Thank you for the input:
I talked to a good friend, who is heavy into creating, recording, and digitizing audio and music files with all the latest software and hardware. When I explained to him what I wanted to do, he looked at me like I had just fallen off the turnip truck. After some more conversation including it's benefits to man kind , I realized that it was going to be a very hard sell. So I guess I am currently doomed with continuing my original direction of monitoring the feed back signals with a microprocessor (and some interfacing hardware) and controlling some driver boards to do my present experments with manipulating the output signals.
I have finished the first proto-type driver boards. I am still testing and tweaking
the design (which I plagiarized most of it from someone else's design). I just basically added optical isolation to try and reduce noise returning to the processor. I did notice a couple of things about the output FET configuration.
1. The FET with the load connected to the source instead of the drain runs hotter that the one with the Load connected to the drain. I used the computer fan and heat sinks to keep them cool, Seem to do a good job as far as cooling goes. At 4 amps, the temperature stays around 120 degrees F.
NOTE: Preliminary testing of boards looks good. The feedback loop to the coil driver board is one loop of wire around the outside of the bifilar coil.
I am posting this information only as a part of a work in progress, and a idea generator, not as a final device that will produce free energy.
"My Ideas and work only" (OH!! and what ever I can plagiarized). As I stated earlier, I would love to see Akula or one of you guys go down in history as the one who gave humanity free energy.
As Always; Thank You and Have a Great Day. br549