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OVERUNITY DEVICE

Started by magnetman12003, October 04, 2013, 07:36:25 PM

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TinselKoala

Not only that but it looked to me like he clamped the clampon meter ONTO, not around, the voltmeter lead.

Tinker around and make your measurements and claims all you like, but when you apply for monetary prizes or solicit money or offer something "apparently" bogus for sale like this.... I become interested.

What is shown in the video does not support the claim. There is more that I could say. Much more.
:-X

TinselKoala

From 5:14 to 5:18 you can see very clearly that he clamps the clampon meter ONTO the Black VOLTMETER lead.  The jaws aren't closed and the clamp is actually ON the wire not around it.

Since when does a voltmeter lead carry any current?

Since about 1968, when people put away their VTVMs and started using higher input impedance semiconductor devices, that's when.


I don't know whether to laugh or cry, really. I've typed several things and deleted them.

"Let me know, folks..." OK, Magnetman: Your claims are bogus because your measurements are bad. I don't know whether you are doing it on purpose or not, it's hard for me to believe that someone who can construct a Bedini motor doesn't know the basics of measuring current or voltage, nor has read the manual for the Craftsman clampon meter. You are trying to measure a lead which should NOT be carrying any current at all, at least not detectable. You are also misusing the meter by clamping it ON the wire not around it. The jaws of the meter must be completely and solidly closed, even a little bit of dirt in there can destroy the magnetic circuit that the meter depends on for accuracy, and they must be closed around the wire not onto it. This is BASIC meter usage.

Please retract your overunity claims until you at least can show some competence in measurement.

http://web.missouri.edu/~schumacherl/clampon%20meter.pdf

MasterPlaster

I don't trust any measurement. Is it a self runner for start?


Hoppy

I think this so called overunity demo must go down as a classic example of how not to measure a circuit. This guy clearly has no idea how to use a clamp meter and does not realise that he should not even be using it in this application!  :(

TinselKoala

In the Description of the video on YT Magnetman says that he didn't pinch the wire in the jaws... but I think everyone can see clearly that he does indeed pinch the wire, in the times indicated above.

Further... he doesn't address the issue of the FACT that the lead to the voltmeter is the wrong place to measure current, AND it will not have any current in it anyway.

And the comedy of him pushing the reset button on the clampon until he gets numbers he likes is truly classic.

@Magnetman12003:

The Voltmeter is a high impedance device, it does NOT let measurable current through it, that is the whole point, Magnetman. Why do you not know this? I think you DO know it, and you are asking for money, and so that makes YOU a conscious fraud, there, Magnetman. The claim that you have made the measurement many times may be true.... and garbage "measurements" will be garbage every time you make them. Pushing the button until you see a number you like == selecting pretty bits of garbage.

You have disabled comments on your video. Come on, here, and have a discussion, and refute me. You cannot.