Building a self looping "SMOT"

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Techstuff
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Here is a recent discovery which comes from the sun!!

http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

Imagine that..............

Thx
Chet

[TinselKoala]

TK:

That looked like 1/2 of the Nomad probe.  lol

I agonize over the speed measurement issues because I envision a portable test jig that you can move around on the track to measure speeds in different places.  So how precisely does it have to be positioned and stuff like that.

I uploaded a picture of an air track in case some people have never seen one.  Dance on air like Fred Astaire.

MileHigh

You could use a pair of gates a fixed distance apart, like two full ball widths or maybe even just one, and then position this gate array anywhere along the track. The Arduino's timing is accurate enough (it has a microsecond timer routine built in, and with 2 uS resolution, iirc) to get a speed over that short a distance. So you could get speeds anywhere along the track by repositioning the gate array. The "point" of instantaneous speed would be the midpoint between the gates. You might even be able to do it with a single gate by timing on the leading and the trailing edges of the shadow as the ball passes through it.

[TinselKoala]

Tinsel
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""Neither Gravity nor Magnetism is an energy _source_.""
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All that would be requiered to change that would be a new discovery ....
perhaps an effective shielding or means to Focus either?

Sort of like saying water is not a fuel........

The discovery of LENR has shown we can harvest energy from the world around us in ways we never thought possible?

As well Gravity and magnetism....We have no idea what secrets  lay hidden within these fields and how we may use them!
There is __NOTHING__ on this planet that is not effected by these fields!

Of one thing you can be certain Your statement above will not stand the test of time!


Thx
Chet

Your "certainty" is based on faith. My certainty is based on fact.

Water is not a fuel. In fact it is an "ash", the product of burning hydrogen. Can you use the ashes from your BBQ pit for fuel? Good luck.

[TinselKoala]

Techstuff
""Coming to us""
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Here is a recent discovery which comes from the sun!!

http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

Imagine that..............

Thx
Chet

You know, perhaps, that I am a "believer" in some Electric Universe theories. Gravity alone can't be the only force acting over cosmological distances, and I think that "dark matter" and "dark energy" are conventional, gravity-only, attempts at explaining the motions that we see on a large scale in the cosmos. Perhaps when electric fields are taken fully into account there will be no need for "dark matter" or "dark energy" to explain what's going on.
This is my "faith" that is contrary to conventional science. The linked article shows that electric forces and effects are beginning to be acknowledged by the "mainstream".

[MileHigh]

Tinman:

I was thinking the same thing,in regards to setting up a test exit ramp,and measureing how much the ball is slowed when makeing the 90* turn.By useing my HD camera,and having a 3 decimal point timer behind the ramp,i could calculate the speed loss of the ball after the turn. If the ball lost half it's speed,that would mean the ball lost half it's kinetic energy + friction losses.

Although we are conscious of the equal and opposite reaction of the Earth itself, we can ignore it.  You can imagine if you built a very solid right-angled turn that the ball would change direction but lose very little energy.  But don't let that discourage you in making the measurement, because finding the velocity change would indeed be a real challenge if the speed reduction is very small.  If a microcontroller runs on a 4 MHz clock for example (ultra slow by modern CPU standards but just fine in the world of microcontrollers) and you have cascadeable internal timer registers, then you could get something like a 32-bit counter that's clocked at 4 MHz.  That's super-high sub-microsecond timing precision.  You can start and stop that counter via some I/O bits on the microcontroller.  You can make some amazing measurements like that.  One event from your sensor starts the counter and the second event stops the counter.  Then an interrupt is triggered and the interrupt service routine reads the timer registers and away you go.  I did it with a Vic20!  lol

Could it no be possable that i see something others have not?

Did you buy the X-Ray specs from the inside back cover of the comic books?

What i would like,is for you to also look into the energy loss as the ball makes that 90* turn on the exit ramp.

You can distill this concept down to this configuration as a thought experiment:  Blow off the hills for starters.  If the SMOT ramp is supposed to be adding energy, why all the up-down business?   Imagine four magnetic rails laid out flat on a table in a square.  Everything is held securely in place.  At each corner the ball rolls into a machined aluminum block that has a perfect 90-degree turn that's a perfect fit for the ball.  Each aluminum block is secured down into the table so it doesn't budge.

Now with this simple track if every SMOT adds even a tiny bit of energy you might be able to overcome the relatively small friction losses and you will have a self runner.  If you can imagine this then you might be able to imagine the outcome!  lol

MileHigh