Building a self looping "SMOT"

[TinselKoala]

Preserved for the record.

The claim is that the claimant HAS (present tense) a WORKING prototype that runs, on its own, for over three hours. Yet what he has offered in support of his claims... is just the same stuff we have seen for years, working with SMOTs of various configurations. You get part of a full cycle and have to add energy in order to even complete the first cycle.

Perhaps the BEST way to record one's priority, after making the patent application, is to produce a demonstration of the claims, on video and in public.


Of course... that requires the claims to be true.

[ramset]

Conversely
Denying the claim requires the Claimant be called a liar ?

Typically this requires investigation [by those of sane mind].
At the very least [in this case] to find The ""effect"" insignificant
so as to base a self run claim?

To have Prejudice without investigation is Both ignorant and arrogant.

I chose to investigate pryer to Prejudice .

I also read the thread "" the part where he has entered into negotiations
with a MFG comp, ??

Its the "" League of extraordinarily benevolent but Poor businessmen  association"".

I should know........

Basically You got all your gonna get at this point.

For the record!!

thx
Chet
PS
Norman is this the magnet you are using?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103429

[TinselKoala]

Conversely
Denying the claim requires the Claimant be called a liar ?

Typically this requires investigation [by those of sane mind].

If someone claims something that is literally incredible... like the three hour runtime with no power input... then it is up to them to provide credible evidence. If they cannot-- or will not-- then "if the shoe fits... wear it."

At the very least [in this case] to find The ""effect"" insignificant
so as to base a self run claim?

To have Prejudice without investigation is Both ignorant and arrogant.

I chose to investigate pryer to Prejudice .

Just what is "unique" and new about what elecar has presented? Nothing, as far as I can see. Literally thousands of people have tried the same things he has presented, and nobody has made one work. Furthermore there are sound, and never refuted, theoretical reasons why it cannot work as claimed. So LET HIM PRESENT CREDIBLE EVIDENCE for his claims! That is where it stands at the moment, and you are doing a profound disservice to all those SMOT researchers who came before, with the same ideas, but could not make them work. The "pryer" investigations have already been done!
When elecar presents his fully working model that performs according to his claims... then let the "investigations" begin. At present all he has done is the usual: he claims one thing, shows another, and insults those who want him to provide evidence.
Well, I can "do the math" on that one, and I come up with "Wayne Travis".

I also read the thread "" the part where he has entered into negotiations
with a MFG comp, ??

Its the "" League of extraordinarily benevolent but Poor businessmen  association"".

I should know........

Hey, I've entered into negotiations with a major Texas livestock ranch, to breed my invisible pink unicorns. I have a pair in my back yard paddock, don't you know. They eat paper and shit fully charged AA batteries. Unfortunately I can't show you a picture (they are invisible after all). Prove that I don't have them! Look, here is a fully charged AA battery. Smell it! That should be proof enough for anyone.
Or are you calling me a liar? You should know...

Basically You got all your gonna get at this point.

I could have told you that at the beginning of this thread, but I waited to see if elecar was going to follow the script. And of course he is, to the letter.

For the record!!

thx
Chet
PS
Norman is this the magnet you are using?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103429

[ramset]

Tinsel
Your "script"?? "THE SCRIPT""

He has done everything he said would be done in the very first post of this thread ??
Whilst you may require more from him than his original commitment?

Some are not so Needy.........

Thx
Chet

[conradelektro]

Some thoughts about patenting a SMOT

(All touchy persons, specially the inventor of the SMOT in discussion, should assume that I am writing about any other SMOT, just not their favorite SMOT.)

In case you have a working SMOT (where the steel ball runs endlessly) the SMOT itself becomes unimportant. The "magnet arrangenment" capeabe of moving the steel ball does not need a track (which leads a steel ball around and finally back to the starting point) and it even does not need a steel ball.

This "magnet arrangement" will be the holy grail of all permanent magnet motors. If you can lift a steel ball over the proverbial "sticky point", you can do it with a rotor.

Of course one has to understand the never before understood principle of this "magnet arrangement". And this will be a never before understood property of magnets.

So, if you ever manage to make a steel ball run endlessly in a SMOT, shut up, and try to understand the "magnet arrangement". And if you ever understand it, build the elusive "permanent magnet motor" and patent this motor.

It makes no sense and it will be impossible to accurately describe a SMOT without describing the principle of the "magnet arrangement". And what would you patent besides the principle of the "magnet arrangement"? Do you want to patent some roundabout for a steel ball?

And then of course you run head on into the difficulty (or impossibility) to patent a newly discovered principle, which I explained several times in this forum.

http://www.overunity.com/10596/hydro-differential-pressure-exchange-over-unity-system/msg324092/#msg324092

http://www.overunity.com/12207/quentron-com/msg324294/#msg324294

Greetings, Conrad