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Overunity Machines Forum



Building a self looping "SMOT"

Started by elecar, October 08, 2013, 03:34:35 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: LibreEnergia on November 07, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
If the ball is started without an excess of either  gravitational potential or kinetic energy, it returns to the same starting energy state each loop and it can loop even once then it is "over-unity". He doesn't need to claim it  , just describing something that could do that is over-unity by definition.

Thanks for the response to my "for the record" question.

You also have hit the nail right on the head. The claim was made in the very first post, and in the title of the thread. Elecar claims to be able to teach us to make a self-looping SMOT like he has got, but without revealing the one he claims to have, or even demonstrating that he actually knows how to do it.

Is there anyone here except happyfunball who doesn't think elecar was making a claim of overunity performance, I wonder?

I wonder if any smot builders will notice that I have shown, in my worthless cheesy video, one easy way to minimize losses around a full loop: You make a circular, level track with minimal contact area to the ball.

happyfunball

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 07, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
Thank you for proving my point so succinctly. You cannot find anything wrong with my video or my analysis of his video, and you cannot discuss rationally the real issues, so you choose to insult me instead.

I certainly do find something wrong with making a sarcastic attack video with cutesy insulting pieces of cheese to 'prove' something does not do what the claimant never claimed it does. You are the insulting one, why don't you work it out with a shrink and let elecar do his thing.

TinselKoala

Quote from: happyfunball on November 07, 2013, 09:28:25 PM
I certainly do find something wrong with making a sarcastic attack video with cutesy insulting pieces of cheese to 'prove' something does not do what the claimant never claimed it does. You are the insulting one, why don't you work it out with a shrink and let elecar do his thing.
So now you are accusing me of somehow preventing elecar from "doing his thing!" That is indeed astounding, when all I have EVER done is to ask, more and more pointedly, for him to DO JUST THAT. Prove his claims with supporting evidence.

But it certainly appears that you and some others are really really trying to prevent me from "doing my thing".

happyfunball

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 07, 2013, 10:40:35 PM
So now you are accusing me of somehow preventing elecar from "doing his thing!" That is indeed astounding, when all I have EVER done is to ask, more and more pointedly, for him to DO JUST THAT. Prove his claims with supporting evidence.

But it certainly appears that you and some others are really really trying to prevent me from "doing my thing".

Figured you'd resort to a straw man argument when pressed. I requested you let eclair do his thing, rather than distracting from the topic with immature bullying. He didn't claim to show OU yet. Is that too much for the mighty TK to grasp? Mendacious seems to be one of your favorite words when applied to others, I do believe you should buy a mirror.

MileHigh

LibreEnergia:

Quote4. From position 11.90 through to position 23.400 when the ball is shown looping twelve times it is apparent that IDENTICAL frames are present in the video, including the exact same video noise pattern. The likelihood of this occurring by chance are remote.

That was a slam-dunk.  My impression is that the creator or creators of the video had no idea that this issue was in play.

The likelihood is indeed remote.  Way less than one in a Google.  And you know they say that there are 10^80 protons in the universe.

MileHigh