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HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth

Started by markdansie, October 17, 2013, 03:20:15 AM

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ramset

""Get alive again, advisors are talking out of own fear, killing with that the free thinking creating artists!


Kind regards, Johan"""

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Sir you truly inspire .
Yes the phase change from water to steam [and back again],is too good to pass up.

This will be a fun topic,and your contributions greatly appreciated.
after all we are not getting any younger......... :'(

but hopefully wiser  :o

Tx
Chet

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Johan_1955

Hi Chet,


Thanks, but you got me at the moment from pure ............. , help!
Where is the true social behaviour in sharing, feelings & respect, know mine panic, bit like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc


Most producing very passionate the new tax-payers, in and for a proven not working system, why addicted to XXX?
Claiming to love, but dumping them the product / kids fast a possible a school.
O yep, forgot, the mother needs also freedom, oeps, not forget the Gold-Card.
When you lucky in own choice / life, the contrasts becomes so, almost to clear!?
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7 types of electrical charge / current, only one we can direct measure.
Why, we did get only the tools that they want, so use your upper compartiment and go for it!
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Hoping that Luc has the patience, maybe one day they see even the good part of Ainslie/Gray/Papp ...........
Grape hammer, 2 rods in the soil, no, no, ...........
It has to go more easy, such spoiled & demanding towards a gift, of life?
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Next time, a maybe more about our working Rotary-Plasma-Engine, yep, again and also with water!


Regards, Johan

Grumage

Dear Johan_1955.

I have spent most of my life working with the Internal combustion engine, mainly the early ones !! I am also familiar with the use of water injection to reduce " Pinking " on Paraffin/kerosene engines.

I have also designed and built a few !!

Thought you might be interested in the following attachments taken from Rankin Kennedy's book " Modern engines and power generators 1905 "

I have often wondered how this would work scaled up ??

Cheers Grum.

Johan_1955

Quote from: Grumage on December 17, 2013, 01:07:14 PM
Dear Johan_1955.
I have spent most of my life working with the Internal combustion engine, mainly the early ones !! I am also familiar with the use of water injection to reduce " Pinking " on Paraffin/kerosene engines.
I have also designed and built a few !!
Thought you might be interested in the following attachments taken from Rankin Kennedy's book " Modern engines and power generators 1905 "
I have often wondered how this would work scaled up ??
Cheers Grum.


Dear Grum,


Thanks for reacting!


Your "Pinking" = Detonation, in a Spark-plug engine?


Than your water injection, was maybe the Pre-Water Injection, like: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/


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Thanks for the page's with "Vogt Engine", nice idea?


Only with the "Combustion-End-Pressure" on the hole engine casing, would it be possible with a Self Detonation / Diesel!?


But in the base, its like our solution for the Combined Dual Fuel Rotary Engine, we have a bit less water and smaller build, bit like a Liquid Ring Pump.


Regards, Johan

Grumage

Quote from: Johan_1955 on December 18, 2013, 07:11:25 AM

Dear Grum,


Thanks for reacting!


Your "Pinking" = Detonation, in a Spark-plug engine?


Than your water injection, was maybe the Pre-Water Injection, like: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/


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Thanks for the page's with "Vogt Engine", nice idea?


Only with the "Combustion-End-Pressure" on the hole engine casing, would it be possible with a Self Detonation / Diesel!?


But in the base, its like our solution for the Combined Dual Fuel Rotary Engine, we have a bit less water and smaller build, bit like a Liquid Ring Pump.


Regards, Johan

Dear Johan_1955.

Every time I read that "Water injection" will severely damage your engine I grit my teeth!! For nearly 30 years Lister Paraffin engines were fitted with a water injector, tapped off the cooling system.
Suggested rate was 1 drip per second set by looking through a glass window on the drip feed assembly !! Most of my larger Lister's are now at a museum.  I can verify that the majority of my collection is still in perfect running order despite the vast quantities of water they consumed during their working life !!

"Pinking" or pre ignition knock was caused because the vaporised fuel had to be ignited at nearly 25 deg BTDC !! It was found that water injection cured this problem!! Back then fuel economy did not enter the equation !!  :)

Cheers Grum.