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Toroidal Coils

Started by d3x0r, October 22, 2013, 06:56:51 PM

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d3x0r

Playing with vortex bottles... two 2 liter bottles with their caps joined.


1) the orifice of the interface should be smooth and curving
2) (probably) depending on the viscosity and specific gravity (density) of the substances the size of the orifice needs to be large enough to counteract the weight against the surface tension... (oh I guess it's just surface tension?)  Other than it also needs to flow one into the other.


It's an interchange of two different mediums.  Probably with a similar rotational structure...


With a small orifice.  You must impart a circular motion to the water.  This causes a higher pressure on the outside and a lower pressure on the inside, allowing the low density fluid to go up ... If the pressure exchange can become constant, there will be a surface tension wall on the water around the inner conduit of air.  As long as the circular motion in the top bottle can be maintained, the exchange of water on top and air on bottom will continue.  At a point, the votex collapses internally, and bubbles (enclosed pockets of air with a water suface on all side) begin to form and get pushed up the tube (pulled? by the vacuum no the top?) So it starts frothing.


Back to electronics...

The spinning motion of the water reminds me of a magnetic field, evacuating a space to allow electrostatic transfer the other direction.


1) To have a motion, the vortex must open first?
2) Because of a motion a vortex forms.


1) inertia says a particle in motion remains in motion.. so its vortex must also remain until stopped.  its vortex will interact with other vortexes that also exist, unless the mass of induction is equal. 


The inner vortex must open.  It can be non continuous... that is in a bubble/ pinches off from others... so the smallest possible vortex form is...?  Cavitation, low pressure toroidal rings that self propel?  (nano manufacturing, Mark LeClaire ? close)


the higher the inducted field, the less resistance to current flow; higher current flow causes higher heat...


Still doesn't lend to a good idea of how induction forms....


Other than the first induction is in the same direction in near windings...


Let's suppose that magnetic fields flow from the positive, and static fields from the negative....


THe closing induction... where flow is reducing, causes an inversed flow in the other?  Does it matter?  Can the secondary be conditioned so it will result in an induction the other way; as long as it is allowed to flow?  Other than attraction/repulsion of near windings...














d3x0r


So... along the way of this thread, I went back and read some comments... 'what am I tryig to do? poking and proding?'  well.. LOOK... this coil is like your grandfathers solenoid or pancake coils.... unless you consider a single loop a coil.

So this is what I'm trying to do now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjBuP0oPbc&list=PLYup1NqKR5BOCojQjg21gIOEiOUxDlM5A&index=1


I recorded this video to wind toroflux  toys using like plastic yard trimmer line... something you can fiddle with while there's nothing else to do.
It makes for a very interesting toy that you can put over things and it form fits...
it's like a chinese finger cuff - only totaly the opposite because it never binds.  Hooray for rotation and curvature.


I put that at the top of the playlist of this path I went on about these coils....


I'm really sad I couldn't just get anyone else to jump on the train with me... these are incredibly simple coils that are entirely functional in their simplest forms. 


It's a dozen turns a few meters of wire... you can wind a several in 15 minutes - since I did that, while talking about it a lot... that I could have done a lot more.


What I was doing?


Taking the principles of the abha/rodin coils and finding common factors and reducing the equations to simplest terms.


I did do it... the end was actually quite pleasant


--- What am I doing? WHat are we all doing here?  Might I refer you to the website address?


What can I do in redoing what EVERYONE else did...


what can they get by doing what one else did?

d3x0r

Please fill up this page to overflow the overly large images.


d3x0r

Though what really brings all this back is this thing I starting playing with


https://d3x0r.github.io/MarchingTetrahedra/


which became


https://d3x0r.github.io/IsoSurface-MultiTexture/


Which are both ways of determining what 'things' look like...


After I had just a cloud of points that defined things, I sort of wanted to make them interact... but they're at their core just points, so I should be able to easily use those instead of the faces and geometry get are produced by those points...


Like the forms that get generated are merely the shadows on the wall....


So I started implementing quaternions


https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/3d/index.html


But was disatsified with their limitations, and took the full dive into angle-angle-angle ( [size=78%]https://github.com/d3x0r/STFRPhysics/blob/master/Curvature.md[/size] )
really arc-arc-arc, and extended the imaginary plane to it's actual source.
Turns out it works really nicely; but I ran into some shapes that fell out when dealing with quaternions in their natural frame that were inobvious...Show Basis Map: [/size]


option shows the grid x/y/z for the curvatures around the x/y and z axels... and there's a scaling factor that takes the linear rotations and results with the proper distance in rectangular space for that coordinate...


Working in this sort of skewed space, the translations look linear/circular/rectangular ... and actually mostly linear in the linear space ... especially at very high curvatures (or delta angles... like this system can account for a thing that spin 15.3 times per tick... )




Most of the math systems out there seem to be lacking this conversion/scalar... but then again, when it IS applied, then the natural geometry that falls out would represent a magnet (2 magnets) with field that want to align their relative curvature to each other... minimizing the difference...


and the angles needed at various positions vary...

d3x0r

And anyone PLEASE explain to me


https://youtu.be/04-kWptAiV8?t=438


This is AIR COREs...
I know... I have a bunch of stuff scattered all around, it REALLY isn't that much, which is why I'm confused by the confusino of the mess... can you not just follow 2 wires?


How does the pulse NEVER go negative?  Where does it go?  it's really just an oscillation above 0 DC....


look




    LoadA  - toroid coil - load B
              (air gap)
                 toroid coil
                  |
               oscillator


the bi-filar coils are connected in series, with that middle tap being ground, and you get positive and negative potential on the other side. ...
after you get the system started you can remove the ground, but initially you need some free source of electrons to have some motion in the system.