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Oldie but Goldie

Started by lancaIV, October 31, 2013, 08:44:40 AM

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lancaIV

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/12/04/chinese-company-says-it-will-soon-cross-100-battery-threshold-slay-the-internal-combustion-engine/#1bc5daf21740

2020 : 100 US$/KWh storage
2025:    50 US$/KWh storage

Charge cycles lifetime, DoD
price per charge cycle power


             New Lithium production process:  only 10% exploration costs from actual average market prices

                   https://electrek.co/2019/05/15/china-lithium-production-breakthrough/
                                                              2200 US$/ton

Higher than in Chile : 1800 US$/ton but less than in Australia : 5000 US$/ton
https://investingnews.com/innspired/lithium-brine-extraction-electric-vehicle-market/

          Beyond Lithium : Sodium-Ion battery and Aluminium-Ion       
         https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190201081503.htm
https://baogroup.stanford.edu/index.php/research-highlights/451-a-low-cost-sodium-ion-battery
Lithium up to 15000 US$/ton          :            Sodium 150 US$/ton
           https://phys.org/news/2019-06-ultrafast-metal-ion-batteries-based-cathode.html


lancaIV

2019 battery-sets( battery,charger,inverter) 3 KWh capacity  costs per KWh :

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/battery-storage-price-index-May-2019/
             the given 5.370 AUS$ x 0,625 to Euro /  3 KWh :  +- 1120 Euros / KWh capacity 


                   KWH calculation for 20 years life-time  and 1100 Euros/KWh battery-system costs:


                         22 Euro-cents ( without generator,wind/solar,water,static,......)
                         25 US$cents

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.finanztip.de%2Fphotovoltaik%2Fstromspeicher%2F
                      This is a 1000% margin industry( high incomes= profits/ margins/capital-tax)

Target : bringing the battery-set( battery,charger,inverter) price down : -90% to 150/100 Euros/KWh
Taking the #6 reply market price preview for batteries and powergurus " 5 KW flat inverter ea. 25 US$"and "open source" charge technology like https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bticcs.com%2Fpub.htm    only more the battery price has to come fast down


https://www.aiche.org/conferences/aiche-annual-meeting/2017/proceeding/paper/638a-cheap-energy-production-and-delivery-everywhere-including-mobile-applications
               
                                                  US$ 0,01 - 0,001 per KWh electricity
for cheap aluminium production : https://patents.google.com/patent/US6551476B1/en
                                                    KWh electricity per Kg aluminium : 7,5

                                   New aluminium production costs fob smelter : < 0,75 US$/ Kg
https://www.google.com/search?q=pedro+correia+aluminium+battery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
http://biosolar.com/
Aluminium as car body/frame/chassis https://www.google.com/search?q=aluminium+frame+car&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m


lancaIV

2020 offer : http://www.energycloud.cz/ 15,2 KWh storage capacity and 380 Kg system weight = 25 Kg/KWh


Portable electricity : 1 KW or 1 KWh


                                     weight ?


                                     costs ?


For the beyond Lithium time :


https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/12/naval-veteran-aluminum-air-metalectrique/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALkupZZHS1fpbgJFL9sQcJaqy4s0aeLPnO_n9VpZdKai8K2dBhY9WVKwJninvCm6FOX8_Nrsa5qDo7BC-5GudC0O0agVEkMIU-UMENB5VNxrCacNhmsDzG9CwBhCeJv2iH_plIDnIbZPLZ1wXYLpnrkNopGcqesbdmTpM0w-WXNQ


https://www.metalectrique.com/
                             

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