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Oldie but Goldie

Started by lancaIV, October 31, 2013, 08:44:40 AM

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Bob Smith

Looking at these incredible advances in battery life, charge cycles and overall output, I can't help but wonder if this has been within industry manufacturing capabilities for some time, but withheld from the public to sell more units and keep the market more active.
Thanks for keeping this one alive, Lanca.
Bob

lancaIV




Thanks for the "flowers" !


It is information in progress !


I would like to see ,by given publication and production process knowledge and " marketing" patent grant saved/open source condition :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1


This invention relates to a solid state Quantum high Energy density Storage Or Retrieval device known as a quensor, and the trademark ENSOR(TM), having an energy density of about 1-15 kwhr/kg, comparable to gasoline, or more to a theoretical limit of about 75 kwhr/kg, is described.

8. The device of this invention is solid state. There is no chemical reaction. Energy is stored or released by the motion of electrons in the cells throughout the quensor film.
Comparing the electric energy storage of the present invention with the prior art conventional capacitor, the sustainable electric field is about 10<10 >v/m an increase by a factor of about 500.
Because of the atomic scale of each cell, electron motion is confined to small distances where the laws of quantum mechanics prevail;
and in which no electron avalanche and no electric breakdown occurs.


This enables an enormous increase in the electric energy storage or retrieval per unit weight; of the order of about 1-15 kWhr/kg, or more; and solves the problems of the prior art.


kw hrs/kg          15

Cost              <$25.




the inverter system

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A


In order to solve the above problems, the power supply device of the present invention includes


a battery,


arranges a DC / AC inverter that inputs the DC power of the battery,


and arranges a phase generation transformer


and a resonance capacitor between the inverter and the load.




the inverter and phase generation transformer produced by this financial/economical condition :


https://overunity.com/2606/electricity-saver/   Reply #3 :

http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

https://web.archive.org/web/20130901130624/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

It is common for a 5kW planar transformer to cost in the region of   $23  nowadays,
and in volumes of 100k+ prices below   $10  per piece are easily achievable.


product incorporated these advantages :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1

C.O.P. 5 input/output                      C.O.P. 4 by 1 unit recharge ( bticc Wiesspeiner charger : 99 % efficiency claimed)


400 US$ for 40 000 KWh output ,by Saburo inverter  system cycle C.O.P. 4X and 10 000 charge cycles battery/charger system !?


                                                            1 US$-cent per KWh


100 US$  the battery 


100 US$ the charger ( commercially under patent grant condition and as shop price "normally" 500 US$ )


200 US$ the Saburo inverter/transformer ( commercially under patent grant condition and as shop price "normally" 1000 US$ )


endconsumer price ,fob factory but included transport/delivery costs


But we can calculate alternatively with "less stress" :

from 400 US$/ 40 000 KWh output                                      = 1 US$-cent/KWh

to      600 US$/ 40 000 KWh output = 1,5 US$-cents/KWh

to      400 US$/ 20 000 KWh output = 2,0 US$-cents/KWh

to      600 US$/ 20 000 KWh output                                     =  3,0 US$-cents/KWh

to       800 US$/  40 000  KWh output                                    =  2,0 US$-cents/KWh

to      800 US$ /20 000 KWh output                                      =  4,0 US$-cents /KWh




                            b2b US electricity market price : 5,5 US$-cents/KWh


25 US$ the Marks-Quensor and 2x 10 US$ ( 100 K mass production) 5 KW inverter/transformer + capacitor : < 100 US$ level
here without extra charger costs

                                                           100 US$ / 10 000 KWh = 1 US$-cent/KWh

                                         life-time transformer (phase change/inverter) ? replacement battery !

                                                          50 US$ x 2 + 50 US$ / 20 000 KWh =






                                                       this is a billions units market !


                                                               mobil and stationary


And I know that the Quensor publication is from 2002 (industrial product price index national/world),
but also the liquid elements 3d-print process progress and production price decrease !


Liquid metals from 15 US$/Kg to 1 US$/Kg preview included !




For low power appliances "wire sputting" technique :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=kaifler&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




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a comparison :


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/30000-cycle-lishen-50c-100c-high-rate-2-5v-18ah-60138-lithium-titanate-lto-battery-for-car-audio-1600095570460.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.maylikeexp.5.60243b4efV9aii


endconsumer price   2,5 Volt a 18 Ah = 45 VAh = 22 ,22 x = > 1 000 VAh , 23 x12,7 Euros  = < 300 Euros/ 1 KVAh


300 Euros / 1 KWh     : 30 000 charge cycle 100 % DoD = 1 Euro-cent/charge cyle or KWh storage


                                                                  80%  DoD     1,25 Eurocents /charge cycle or KWh storage




the above Lithium-Titanate market price in US$ : 350 /KWh

Nano-Boxx


https://www.google.com/search?q=nano-boxx&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=nano-boxx&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0i19j69i59j0i13i19i30l7.4682j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup

                             It can produce power for about eleven years without charging.



40 US$/KWh mass production costs / 10 years permanent 1 KW electricity delivery


                                                      10 years x 8766 hours per year


40 US$ =4000 US$-cents              /  87 660 KWh = 0,045 US$cent /KWh                           


                                                             or 0,00045 US$ per KWh


                         mass production costs x over-head costs/margin ? average 6 times ? more/less ?


300 US$ /KWh Nano-Boxx market price by guaranted 10 years up to 8766 hours = 0,35 US$cent/KWh seems attractive !


                                   Less than         1/15   b2b    electricity market price in the USA




                                                    fast and furious  grid killer technology !


                              " autonomous energy" mobility : civil and military ,sub-sea,sea,land,air

lancaIV

The actual economical benchmark numbers to compete :


AirWatt(Prueitt),AirPower(Hirshberg),aveurope.net energyconverter 24/365     1 US$cent/KWh   e-generation


                CO2-free (only partial by plant construction,CO2-emission free electricity )






Now the following market prices + CO2 emission certification costs : 50 Euros/ton CO2


a. 1 US$cent/KWh shale gas USA


b. 0,5 US$cent(in Rubel)/KWh natural gas Russia


c. 0,002 US$/KWh petrol/gasoline Venezuela https://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-petrol-prices-and-gdp-per-capita.php


d. the Venezuela-petrol price as barrel-KWh equivalent : 3,2 US$/ = 42 gallons or 159 liters or 1600 KWh




                                               stationary / in situ   electricity by renewable e(lectrons)-gas cycle :       


                                                                        target 3,2 US$/1600 KWh ( ~ barrel e-gas )




reference :


KiloWattLabs 1400 AUS$/KWh storage = 1000 US$/KWh 1000000 charge cycles = 0,1 US$cent/KWh charge cycle

https://kilowattlabs.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhY2R8bLm8QIVIu7mCh1kCgy1EAAYASAAEgJYzfD_BwE


https://www.solarbatteriesonline.com.au/product/sirius-energy-storage-capacitor-module-3-55kwh-48v/

https://www.nautimarket-europe.com/en/Kilowatt-Labs-SIRIUS-1-12-Supercapacitor-Battery-1kWh-12V-22134X-UF22134X

1 KWh unit : 1400 Euros/23 Kg = > 60 Euros/Kg


  Lithium Titanate Oxide battery


Yinlong https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-yinlong.html          300 US$/ KWh       25 000 charge cycles      15,6 Kg/KWh


Xalt https://www.xaltenergy.com/total-system-solutions/                                              40 000 charge cycles

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/01/21/xalt-energy-announces-joint-venture-jobs.html
https://www.dbusiness.com/people/dow-kokam-receives-michigan-tax-credits-for-hybrid-and-electric-vehicle-battery-pack-production/
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/11/dow-hpl-20091112.html

HPL was spun out from Professor Graetzel's laboratory at the EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Switzerland) in 2003 and is focused on the development of nano-structured metal oxide energy storage materials and novel electrolytes for use in next generation lithium ion batteries.


                                    2003 with maximal 20 years patent validation : 2023 !





the Yinlong battery with 65 Wh/Kg ,like the Xalt Gen I ( 75 Wh/Kg) LTO,the Xalt Gen II LTO now with 223 Wh/Kg










we can expect over the next years a 300 US$/KWh to 150 US$/KWh Yinlong LTO battery type price decrease (LTO patent validation period)








150 US$ the 5 KW Saburo inverter/phase converter and 3 replacement 150 US$ LTO batteries a 25 000 charge cycles,100% DoD :


     600 US$/ [( 25 000 cc x 3 batteries ) x C.O.P. 4 Tanaka-circuit ]


=  600 US$/ 300 000 charge cycle KWh


=  0,2 US$cent/KWh


      x 1600 


=  3,2 US$/barrel e-gas




What is the overhead-neutral and material-neutral battery production price,the simple industrial transformation service  ?


when a Lead-battery with 1 KWh storage capacity costs 40 US$(gross selling.fob factory) we get a total 2 US$/Kg battery price .




Lithium(pure metal) as Lithium Carbonat in batteries :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_battery#:~:text=Lithium%20batteries%20are%20widely%20used,kg%20of%20lithium%20per%20kWh.


6000 US$/ton Lithium Carbonat by 850 Grams per KWh = 5,1 US$ "Lithium C" worth per KWh capacity or 1 US$/Kg battery




Yinlong LTO 300 US$/15,6 Kg                        =                  19,25 US$/Kg selling price


Lead battery 2 US$/Kg + 1 US$/Kg Lithium C =                    3     US$/ Kg basic material + transformation service costs




https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385  2 US$/Kg  10 000 charge cycle version


https://newatlas.com/energy/gmg-graphene-aluminium-ion-battery/


https://revolution-green.com/sunvault-energy-graphene-based-supercapacitor/


                                                         2015


SUNVAULT ENERGY RECENTLY DISPLAYED THE ABILITY TO 3D PRINT DEVICE PARTS, WHICH CAN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE MANUFACTURING COSTS.


THEY PREDICT IT WILL BE BELOW $50 USD PER KILOWATT HOUR OR ONE THRID OF THE NEW TESLA BATTERY

https://qnovo.com/82-the-cost-components-of-a-battery/
https://qnovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Batterycost.png 2016


                                                                                                              2020

                                Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $100/kWh


https://about.bnef.com/blog/battery-pack-prices-cited-below-100-kwh-for-the-first-time-in-2020-while-market-average-sits-at-137-kwh/




                                                                                                             2030




                                 Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $ ?? /KWh ::)  by ?? 000 charge cycles,100 % DoD






https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352152X21004783


The techno-economic simulation output provided that the system with Li-ion battery resulted in a Levelized Cost of Energy (LCOE) of 0.32 €/kWh ;D  compared to the system with lead-acid battery with LCOE of 0.34 €/kWh  ;D .






                              Noe,abspecken :           


                             LCOE of 0,32 US$/160 KWh   


                             lean price management


                             on-shore,portable,flexible




We do possibilities,by reference :


Yinlong 300 US$/15,6 Kg price ,KiloWattLabs Kg price 1000 US$/(75 Kg/3,55)


when KiloWattLabs superbattery delivers 1 000 000 charge cycles and a transformer works 80 000 hours ( coil life time) this equals 12 times a. new transformer cycle/circuitb. or 2x times transformer cycle/circuit  with periodically one parts refurbishment and reuse


1000 US$ the 1 KWh superbattery and 12x 200 US$ the transformer cycle/circuit ( 1x inverter + 1x phase converter) = total 3400 US$
3400 US$/ 4 000 000 C.O.P. 4x  1 000 000 charge cycles = 3400 US$/ 4 000 000 KWh = 0,00085 US$/KWh


                or                                0,32 US$/376 KWh


1 000 US$ the 1 KWh superbattery and 2x transformer cycle/circuit and max. 150 US$ each refurbishment = total 2900 US$
2900 US$/ 4 000 000 C.O.P. 4x 1 000 000 charge cycles = 2900 US$/ 4 000 000 KWh = 0,000725 US$/KWh


               or                                0,32 US$/441 KWh




https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233

Ultrafast all-climate aluminum-graphene battery with quarter-million cycle life

1 Kg battery specific material content ?

battery-grade graphene production costs  preview : < 10 US$/Kg


aluminium production costs,Sherba :                      <   1 US$/Kg


coal to graphene :

https://www.iea.org/reports/coal-2020/prices-and-costs                base material 5 $cents/Kg

https://www.ohio.edu/research/tto/technologies/environmental-science/low-cost-production-graphene-coal


low cost CVD reactor :


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00051144.2018.1528691






2011 numbers :


https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2011/04/commercialization-of-graphene.html

f.e.


It has been predicted that graphene nanoplatelets can be produced at $5 per pound.
If such costs could be achieved it will provide major disruption in the nanocomposites marketplace.




Now also possible : CO2 from air scrubbing,financed by CO2-producer and https://www.compositesworld.com/news/kit-produces-graphene-from-carbon-dioxide


https://www.google.com/search?q=co2+to+graphene&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=co2+to+graphene&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i19i22i30i59.6745j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


theoretically ,by CO2-charge   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax               , Zero costs graphene up to "negative costs price" per Kg production and selling !




https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233 by lead-battery selling price ! NOT IMPOSSIBLE !


                                                       Net 40 US$/250 000 charge cycles


The energy density of AIB (40 to 60 Wh kg−1) =  average 1 KWh/ 20 Kg X


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13385  2 US$/Kg   10 000 charge cycle version



                                     = 1 KWh/ 20 Kg            x 2 US$/Kg     = 40 US$




           40 US$ per KWh capacity storage / 250 000 charge cycles = 0,016 cent/KWh per unit e-gas storage


                                                                                       or         0,00016 US$/KWh per unit e-gas storage


                                              6 times cheaper than KiloWattLabs superbattery !


lancaIV

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4

In practice submitted to several measures and tests we obtained a residual power consumption of 6 mA resulting more from cable feed then coil power consumption.


                                             electrical VA input/magnetical to mechanical W output ?


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20040226&CC=DE&NR=20317795U1&KC=U1






https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=DE&NR=3826970A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19900215&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=16&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19821007&CC=DE&NR=3039176A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19810723&CC=DE&NR=3002327A1&KC=A1




https://fbadhusha.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/9/5/3895546/ele-pulse-power.pdf


         PIC     =300х50=          15 kW = 15 000 W


PC = PIC ⋅ Z =15000х0.0096           =      144 W


Thus, the power pulse shown in Fig. 3 has not 15 kW and not 144.8 W,


but only     


P = UC ⋅ IC = 2.88⋅ 0.48 =                      1.40W


https://www.productinfo.schneider-electric.com/ion9000/5b92c16783d55700015689f0/ION9000%20user%20manual/English/BM_ION9000seriesUserManual_0000226366.ditamap/$/C_IO_CalculateMaxPulseWeight_HEP_0000055491


66 Wh/Kg energy storage density and 175 KW/Kg power density ,up to 250 000 charge cycles

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233


The Kanarev pulse power : 15 000 W    or          144 W                   or      1,4 W               power density            demand  ?


                                       / 175 KW                  /175 KW                      / 175 KW


as perpetuum feedback electric pulse to magnetic pulse to electric .... cycle/circuit the energy density demand  ?




sm0ky2

Quote from: lancaIV on July 04, 2020, 08:48:58 AM

similar rotative generator-free concept : 1 W/1$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7LH_C_qN6w



This works best when the length of the band is 1 wavelength.
And the magnet placed at the 1/4 wavelength node.



I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.