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[gyulasun]

Hi Poit,

I agree with both Conrad and you because there have been no correct input - output measurements given so far.

From the good translation I referred to it turns out for me that the principle is based on magnetic gears, a disk magnet (Mr Engel calls it a "mirror") is rotated (at a certain distance from the rotor of the setup) by a small DC motor (with input power of 8mA*9V=72mW) and the attract or repel forces between the disk magnet and that of the other magnets fixed on the rotor of the setup make this setup operate.

As always, time will tell...

Gyula

[Poit]

and the wait for the inevitable disappointment begins

[Newton II]

Hi Folks,

I found a very good translation of the FULL German newspaper report on Mr Engel's permanent magnet motor, see this printer friendly link to it:

http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html

Stefan, any more news from his son or from the motor itself since then?

Thanks, Gyula

Thanks for that link.  Now I got some idea about it. 

I think he is trying to rotate a diametrically bigger magnet with a smaller one which he calls as 'mirror'.   By doing so,  you will get greater torque at the center of bigger magnet due to mechanical advantage which is same as any gear, pulley or chain drive.

This setup may work only if  rotor and the 'mirror'  rotate with same speed thereby utilising the excess mechanical  advantage.  If the rotor and mirror rotate with different speeds  proportional to inverse ratio of their diameters,  then torque gained by bigger rotor will be lost in time  (it rotates with lesser speed) as in the case of any standard gear or pulley drive.

I think I have seen such a design before also in this forum :

http://www.overunity.com/11586/magnetic-motor-with-electromagnets-idea/msg303738/#msg303738

The sketch given by ELEMAN in his thread   'HOW TO BUILD MAGNET MOTOR'  also resembles the same thing.

http://www.overunity.com/14042/how-to-build-a-magnet-motor/msg377802/#msg377802

[Poit]

Thanks for that link.  Now I got some idea about it. 

I think he is trying to rotate a diametrically bigger magnet with a smaller one which he calls as 'mirror'.   By doing so,  you will get greater torque at the center of bigger magnet due to mechanical advantage which is same as any gear, pulley or chain drive.

This setup may work only if  rotor and the 'mirror'  rotate with same speed thereby utilising the excess mechanical  advantage.  If the rotor and mirror rotate with different speeds  proportional to inverse ratio of their diameters,  then torque gained by bigger rotor will be lost in time  (it rotates with lesser speed) as in the case of any standard gear or pulley drive.

I think I have seen such a design before also in this forum :

http://www.overunity.com/11586/magnetic-motor-with-electromagnets-idea/msg303738/#msg303738

The sketch given by ELEMAN in his thread   'HOW TO BUILD MAGNET MOTOR'  also resembles the same thing.

http://www.overunity.com/14042/how-to-build-a-magnet-motor/msg377802/#msg377802

What ever he is trying to do, one thing is certain.. this forum (or any forum for that matter) will never see a OU blueprints!

If I was Stefan, I would simply make a rule... would go something like this "There is no tomorrow! you either have a working unit now with blueprints or you have nothing at all!"

This crap about... 'ohh its JUST around the corner'  .............. 'this time for suuuuuuure' .... 'no no it really is OU, trust me trust me'.... ITS ALL BS!!!!

YOU EITHER HAVE OU OR YOU DONT! whats the point of waiting for someone to release it?!

I am all for working on potential OU devices! sure.. THAT should be half the point of this website....

STRAIGHT down the middle.... 50% should be for working towards OU and the other 50% posts ACTUAL OU blueprints.... it is just down right WRONG to constanltly have this crap about its real but you have to wait... like WTF! WAIT? WAIT FOR WHAT?! DISAPOINTMENT?! if i wanted that... I would put a blind fold on and walk on to a busy highway.......... THAT is just as disapointing as all these freaking claims that never come true!

[Newton II]

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.......... THAT is just as disapointing as all these freaking claims that never come true!

All the freaking claims may never come true.   But seeing these freeking claims and blue prints some genious may get a better idea,  improve it and make it work.  That's how science (knowledge) grows.  Refer Benjamin Franklin's famous reply "What use is a newborn baby?"

Growth of knowledge is like flow of river where old water is replaced by new water.  If water remains stagnant,  it becomes dirty and spreads diseases just like your rotten oil industries polluting the entire world and making life miserable by rising oil prices.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sciurban.htm