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Reactive Generator Research for everyone to share

Started by gotoluc, November 15, 2013, 04:51:05 PM

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Groundloop

Quote from: tinman on November 17, 2013, 07:16:09 AM
Hi GL
Is this the circuit you will be trying?
I do have a few of those ferrite toroids.
Any idea as to why i couldnt get a phase shift in my posted circuit above?.Im thinking frequency is to low.

Hi Tinman,

I did test my proposed circuit. Did use a 10uF capacitor for C1. The output
was disappointing low. I also saw that the input current usage did
go up when I connected a load. So back to the drawing board, LOL.

GL.

lancaIV

Is there an other -simplier ? -solution to stop and moderating the inrush current if not with an capacitor/condensator ?
Sincerely
              OCL

Kator01

Hello,

@Luc, one question:

What is the power dissipated at your 1 Kohm resistor ? Your Power-meter will not give you the correct value, because it measures the power in the whole system. May be I just missed it while watching your vid, but you need to measure voltage and current directly at your resistor ( must be in-phase) or you
measure the temperature and use a dc-supply heating up the very same resistor to the same temperature and register voltage and current on your dc-supply.
What I understand : you have achieved a reduction in power-loss in all parts of the system together but this does not mean you have less rms-power than the one dissipating at the 1 Kohm-resistor which is about 3.5 Watt.
Rotoverter-technique published by Hector does the same thing according to my understanding

You are showing oscilloscope-curves just explaining : Here are voltage and current curves .. but I miss the one across the load-resistor.
What is the exact frequency and the signal-form across this 1 Kohm-resistor ? Are there build-in rectifier-diodes ? We then would have 120 Hz pulses filtered through the cap into primary of the mot.

And of course you are using 50 Watt rms AND X Watt ??? reactive power from the grid. Power companies also have calculated factors in their prices for reactive power because any driver-motors of houshold-devices ( fridge, washing-machine etc) have a certain amount of reactive power. This is the reason why very big
industrial customers need to take care of reactive-power-compensation in their machines since reactive power also needs energy to be supplied to pump the power into the net and back to the generator again

@tinman: Concerning the  pic "First Test Setup"

You have three lines at your wall-socket. A hot wire, a neutral wire and a ground-wire. If you connect the ground-wire to the neutral wire and your automatic fuse

does not react because of high loop-currents, you can then connect  the Ground-Clip of your scope to the neutral-ground-wire-connection. But first you need to

find out the hot-wire.
How to do this: Connect one probe of your multimeter to the ground-wire and find with the other probe the wire which gives you a 120 V ac reading. Measure then the other wire- it must give you a zero-reading = neutral wire.
Then change  the switch of your mulitmeter to ac-current-mode ( > 1 A ) and connect the meter between neutral- and ground- wire. This will show you the loop-current. Change to 200 mA if your first reading indicates that you are below 200 mA

dancombine shows here in his transverter-tests the problems of extracting real power from an resonating LC-Tank.
Up to now they have not solved the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOEdFI1qXCU


Regards

Kator01


gotoluc

Quote from: Groundloop on November 17, 2013, 01:56:31 PM
Hi Tinman,

I did test my proposed circuit. Did use a 10uF capacitor for C1. The output
was disappointing low. I also saw that the input current usage did
go up when I connected a load. So back to the drawing board, LOL.

GL.

Hi GL

do you have a plug-in meter and a Mot?

If so, can you do the simple (attached to grid) test I propose and report your results.

From there you may have a better idea of what would need to be done for a solid state version.

That way you will find your MOT's ideal cap and load resistor (for 50Hz) which should be easier for testing an input of a 50Hz from a solid state switch

Does that make sense?

Thanks

Luc

Groundloop

Quote from: gotoluc on November 17, 2013, 02:26:28 PM
Hi GL

do you have a plug-in meter and a Mot?

If so, can you do the simple (attached to grid) test I propose and report your results.

From there you may have a better idea of what would need to be done for a solid state version.

That way you will find your MOT's ideal cap and load resistor (for 50Hz) which should be easier for testing an input of a 50Hz from a solid state switch

Does that make sense?

Thanks

Luc

Luc,

Yes it makes sense. But I will not mess around with the mains. We do not have the same mains
over here as you do. I also do not have any MOT or enough non-polarized capacitors to play with.
I'm hope it can be done with solid state because 12VDC is my preferred voltage to play with.

GL.