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Overunity Machines Forum



How to make multiple Kicks

Started by Neo-X, November 23, 2013, 10:31:20 PM

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Dave45

Quote from: Reiyuki on December 01, 2013, 03:07:11 AM
  Bruce:   Thanks for that excellent pointer; it really shows a simple, repeatable phenomena to experiment upon.

  Others:  I tried the simple one-wire kick experiment, and it does work.  A few interesting tidbits not yet mentioned:

- One-wire 'kicks' only show up when attached to Positive (+) lead of a square-wave function generator.  Attaching to (-) has no measurable effect.  Quite interesting..
- The kicks are clearly 'current-like' based on various orientations of the pickup coil.
- Wire mass seems as important as inductance or # of turns.  I got better results with a single turn of thick wire than with 10 turns of thin wire.
- The free-floating wire of your long-wire test returns more power when grounded or attached to rudimentary antenna.


-Rei
Thanks for sharing

wings

Quote from: Reiyuki on December 01, 2013, 03:07:11 AM
  Bruce:   Thanks for that excellent pointer; it really shows a simple, repeatable phenomena to experiment upon.

  Others:  I tried the simple one-wire kick experiment, and it does work.  A few interesting tidbits not yet mentioned:

- One-wire 'kicks' only show up when attached to Positive (+) lead of a square-wave function generator.  Attaching to (-) has no measurable effect.  Quite interesting..
- The kicks are clearly 'current-like' based on various orientations of the pickup coil.
- Wire mass seems as important as inductance or # of turns.  I got better results with a single turn of thick wire than with 10 turns of thin wire.
- The free-floating wire of your long-wire test returns more power when grounded or attached to rudimentary antenna.


-Rei

thanks

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Reiyuki on December 01, 2013, 03:07:11 AM
  Bruce:   Thanks for that excellent pointer; it really shows a simple, repeatable phenomena to experiment upon.

  Others:  I tried the simple one-wire kick experiment, and it does work.  A few interesting tidbits not yet mentioned:

- One-wire 'kicks' only show up when attached to Positive (+) lead of a square-wave function generator.  Attaching to (-) has no measurable effect.  Quite interesting..
- The kicks are clearly 'current-like' based on various orientations of the pickup coil.
- Wire mass seems as important as inductance or # of turns.  I got better results with a single turn of thick wire than with 10 turns of thin wire.
- The free-floating wire of your long-wire test returns more power when grounded or attached to rudimentary antenna.


-Rei

Hello Rei and Gentleman,

Someone did an actual experiment!  Heart be still...lol  And here I thought the "talking heads" had taken over the thread.

Now, Rei, I can tell you a few things to assist you.  First, think about WHAT the kick is and WHAT you are seeing.  You mentioned that there is "current" associated with it, but let me "over simplify" the whole thing for you.

Steven spoke of "disabling the effects of the flux so that the electrons can float free from the wire".  Now, let me say this very simply...  With NO current there is NO magnetic flux to hold the electrons to the wire.  Remember Steven said that Tao "had the secret" because he spoke of "stopping the current".  That is right, stop the current and fast switching and you have electrons free from the wire (surface).

Now, what you saw associated with these "freed from the wire" electrons is an associated magnetic field.  That is correct!  An electron moving with NO current, free from the wire has an associated magnetic field.  Steven also said this when he spoke of a nuclear blast and the associated emp or huge magnetic field.  What causes it?  It is NOT coming from current on a wire.  It is coming from the rapid acceleration of electrons.

So, what we have seen on our pick up coils or magnetic sensors is simply the magnetic field associated with speeding electrons as particles.  Now to make power you/we must do several things....
a.  We must make "stronger magnets" ie..strong kicks
b.  We must increase the velocity of the magnet ie..learn HOW to accelerate the magnets velocity.
It is NOT AC or DC or this or that, it is electrons.  Now, you will learn from experimenting that some setups work better than others.  I have been there..done that. 

Because of your experimenting, here are two more video to enjoy.  I have about thirty.  ;-)

Make kicks, make bigger kicks, learn to "combine" the kicks into really big "kicks" (magnetic field strength). 

YouTube:
(P.S. do NOT get hung up on "conclusions" you hear on a video.  They OFTEN change with further experimentation.)
https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=XDabTMKfz3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snf_VMyRr8k
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

MileHigh

Bruce:

It's more like reality needs to get its own fair share of time on this thread.  Take for example, the case of Daniel Nunez.  He put up some clips of pulsing coils on YouTube and claimed over unity.  Many commenters told him that he was wrong and that he was not making his measurements correctly.  He got an article or two on PESN, and the same comments were repeated.  A few months later there is Daniel Nunez at the Breakthrough Energy Conference still pitching his silly coils and claiming over unity.  So Daniel Nunez was intentionally ignoring all of the advice telling him that he had nothing and his measurements made no sense.  He just continued repeating the same thing over again at the conference.

He charges $600 for his "bird's nest" coils.  They are nothing more than magnet wire made into a fancy form.  The "bird's nest" form is totally meaningless, and utterly useless.  You are better off making an ordinary coil.  Daniel Nunez makes coils, but in fact he doesn't have the slightest clue about how a coil works.

So where does that leave Daniel Nunez, Bruce?  He is charging outrageous money and making nonsensical claims for his coils.  In watching several of his clips it is so painfully obvious that he knows next to nothing about electronics and nothing about making proper measurements.  His is just an ordinary Joe Blow that knows next to nothing.  He is just trying to cash in on going "green."  In my book, in my opinion, that makes him a criminal.  He should be exposed and put out of business.  If he persists he should be prosecuted for criminal fraud and sent to jail.

Your first YouTube clip link is a bad link.   The second clip you linked to works.  One more time, your talk about tapping into the electromagnetic field of the Earth.  That's pure nonsensical fantasy on your part.  The only field from the Earth that you experience is a DC magnetic field.  When you first start learning about magnetic fields you learn that they must be changing with respect to time to have any affects on other circuits.  This fact will not go away just because you don't want to believe it.  You can carry on on autopilot if you want to for the next several months and several more YouTube clips and simply ignore this reality but eventually it will come around because you simply can't escape it.

When you lay your hand on the mircowave oven transformer coil you are transferring the 60 Hz voltage hum that your body picks up into the coil.  It's your body acting as an antenna for the 60 Hz mains power hum that ultimately causes the spikes on your scope display.  You can even see what looks like a sine wave envelope on the amplitudes of the spikes, which could be confirmed with more testing including changing the time base of the scope.  I can't tell you the exact methodology for seeing the spikes on the scope display because your clips are very poorly documented, but I am pretty certain based on what I see in your clip that that's what's going on.

If you want to educate and give people a real chance to comment on what you are doing then you have to document yourself properly.  That means that you have to make a schematic of your setup that is clear and readable.  You allegedly have a "magnetic field sensor" that consists of a loop of wire and a black plastic project box.  You have to tell us what your magnetic field sensor is if you want to be credible.

If I had access to your bench and started to investigate what you were doing, it probably would not take me too long to figure out exactly what is going on and it will certainly not be what you think is going on.  You simply don't have the electronics knowledge to understand what is going on based on my reading dozens of your postings and looking at many of your clips.  It's up to you to educate yourself if you want to take this stuff seriously and if you want to be taken seriously.  I am "raising the bar" for you because you are trying to claim a leadership and teaching position.

If you want to properly document your experiment in the second clip and make a schematic and show the various signals, and show what you have in the black box, between myself and others around here we could probably collectively figure out what is really going on in your clip remotely.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Bruce:

In the simplified drawing that you posted in reply #13 in this thread, you say the following:

<<< It is common scientific knowledge that if you have a piece of wire and first run electricity through it you will have a small kick when first energized.  The kick is universally attributed to the Earth's magnetic field.  >>>

There is no common scientific knowledge about what you are suggesting.
Your first statement is totally ambiguous and undefined.
The "kick" is not defined and nothing in the context of what you are doing is "universally attributed to the Earth's magnetic field."

Just in that short statement you are revealing a lot about yourself.  Your are indicating that you are a beginner to the world of electronics and have only taken a few tiny steps.  So if you are serious about this stuff you need to educate yourself and document what you are doing properly.

Any attempts that you might make to suggest that I am "in the past" and you are "advanced and into new uncharted research" are negated by the quote of you above for anyone that has a reasonable understanding of electronics without having to be an expert in electronics.  The interesting thing about electronics is that it's incredibly difficult to fake or feign that you have knowledge and experience when you don't.  Usually within five minutes or five sentences the truth is revealed to people that are knowledgeable.

Sorry for the reality coming crashing down but the readers of this thread deserve to hear the real deal.

So, to try to end this posting on a positive note, if you like this stuff and have fun with it, then by educating yourself you should have that much more fun with it and you can continue to climb up the learning curve and do more meaningful experiments.

MileHigh