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[cheappower2012]

Hoopy

A how many people
died on the titanic when it sunk,name them ,type questions.
Lets get something clear,I am not trying to convince  you that
the tpu is real only reporting what happened during the time I have investigated the tpu.
Historically I have been here awhile so can tell you lots of things that have happen.
If you want absolute proof that the tpu is real you will never find that,
as far as I know any report was between the electronic expert and the investor .
The electronic expert was picked and paid by the investor as far as I know.
The small devices appear only in the investor video,when Jack Durban worked for SM
he copied the investor video and kept the copy for years,later in 2008 he gave the video to some
members here,and they distributed it by bit torrent.

[Hoppy]

Hoopy

A how many people
died on the titanic when it sunk,name them ,type questions.
Lets get something clear,I am not trying to convince  you that
the tpu is real only reporting what happened during the time I have investigated the tpu.
Historically I have been here awhile so can tell you lots of things that have happen.
If you want absolute proof that the tpu is real you will never find that,
as far as I know any report was between the electronic expert and the investor .
The electronic expert was picked and paid by the investor as far as I know.
The small devices appear only in the investor video,when Jack Durban worked for SM
he copied the investor video and kept the copy for years,later in 2008 he gave the video to some
members here,and they distributed it by bit torrent.

There are full public available records for those that died and were saved on the Titanic. However, the point I'm making is that from what I've read, there is no documented records of a full technical investigation made on the various TPU's and we only have various opinions about whether the big TPU was genuine or fake. Jack Durban's 'evidence' really cannot be relied upon as he cannot be ruled out as being a 'convincer' working for or with SM. This is why I respect Bruce for his hard work to investigate this whole saga by attempting to replicate the big TPU from the tit-bits of info supplied by SM. Having said this, I think his efforts are in vain. 

[cheappower2012]

Farmhand

If you want to conclude that the TPU is a fraud then thats ok
As I told Hoopy I'm not here to convince anyone,I have some free time
that why I'm posting,I normally don't post anything related to the tpu.
As to your questions who is Jack Durban,Jack Durban is an electronic engineer that was hired by SM,by Jack Durbans account
to create a fake device,that SM could give the investors,instead of the real one.Jack Durban was witness to the large tpu ,
also to the investors coming and going.
He copied a tape given to investors and kept it for years,later releasing it to members here.
He posted on overunity for awhile ,later he got in a gigantic fight with Hartman and other members
because of hes attitude toward there hero SM.Hes agenda was to insult SM,ridicule SM,he believed that SM might be dead ,so did this to smoke him out.
SM did respond to Jack and called him with threats,later Jack patched up relations with SM and
suggested that he distribute hes tpu through Jacks development company.SM said I can't do that the government owns the rights and that was that, shortly after that
there was the big fight , Jack left and never posted again.
the radio show is at peswiki

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Article:Jack_Durban%27s_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator

read the page

download the mp3 of the radio show


hes company

http://www.vorelco.com/

[cheappower2012]

Hoopy
Your a funny guy,there is a report however because of your over skeptical view you will say I don't believe it.As to Bruce_TPU making a running tpu it will never happen
SM lied about the operation of the TPU, hes information is useless,in the time I have been here I have seen at least 100 replications using SM's information none worked
did you read milehigh's analysis of Bruce_TPU work it can't work ever.
I will give you my opinion of this report,SM had this done because an investor wanted a a report by someone credible in order to sell the TPU.

the first one is related to a video where they cut the tpu in pieces

Schizinger Report

ROLAND SCHINZINGER PhD. Report on Test of Energy Device

At the request of Mr. Richard Mincherton I was present on October 28th at a test
demonstration of a device that its inventor claims will produce electric power without
measurable energy input except as derived from the earth'' magnetic and gravitational fields.

The test was conducted at the inventor's home. I was allowed to bring and use measuring
instruments, but because the inventor had to leave after 11 hours, I was not able to
conduct independent tests on my own.

Based on my observations, I can attest to the fact that the three models of the device
displayed and tested on that day did indeed light up one, two and six light bulbs (each rated at 100 watt and 120 volt) respectively. This was less then the figures quoted to me before the test, but still adequate to demonstrate that the devices function in some fashion.

The smallest unit produced 140 to 150 volts unloaded and 60 to 90 volts when lighting
one 100-watt bulb.

The mid-sized unit produced 250 volts unloaded, and was observed producing 142 Volts
at .5 Ampere after 30 minutes of lighting two bulbs.

The largest unit produced 798 Volts unloaded. With a six-bulb load the voltage dropped
to 420 Volts.

It was difficult to determine how many hours the devices may be able to operate because
the
inventor ended the demonstration after 11 hours. I could not detect any time-varying
magnetic field that might have provided an external energy input.

After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments
(though not the controller box located at the center of the device). These samples
consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a
core made of a cork like substance.
October 29, 1995 Roland Schinzinger
RESUME ROLAND SCHINZINGER
Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering (UCI)
Professor Emeritus of Electrical Engineering (UCI)
PhD, Univ. California, Berkeley 1966
MS, " 1954
BS, " 1953
Westinghouse Design School / U. of Pittsburgh 1955
Apprenticeship (Technikum), Bosch Co. 1947
High School (Doitsu Gakuin, Tokyo, Abitur) 1945
Academic Appointments:
(UCI) Associate Dean 1979-83, 1985-86
(UCB)Teaching Fellow 1963-65
Robert College Istanbul Turkey:
Associate Professor 1962-63
Associate Professor 1958-62
University of California, energ. & Mgt. (Grad Program) 1991-92
California State Polytechnic University 1978-80
University of Santa Maria, Brazil 1993
University of Kariruhe, Germany-
Power and High Voltage Institute 1986
University of Manchester Inst. Of Science and Tech.-
And Imperial College, London: 1972-73
Honors:
Fellow, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Eng.,(IEEE)
Fellow, Institute for the Advancement of Engineering
Award for Contributions to Professionalism (IEEE)
1983 Centennial Medal (IEEE)
Science Faculty Fellow (Natl. Sc. Foundation) 1964-65
Sangamo Prize Fellowship (Sangamo Electric) 1953
Honor Societies HKN, TBN, Sigma xi
Listed in "Who's Who, Am. Men & Women in Science and Engineering
Publications:
Over 70 technical papers, plus numerous reports and commentaries.
Also four books: Ethics in Engineering McGraw-Hill
Conformal Mapping P.A.Laura
Emergencies in Water Delivery Davis Pub.
Electrical Laboratory SIMA Ltd.

this one is a test at the university

This is a copy of a letter I received from Dr. Schinzinger during our
period of correspondence. It is probably around 1995 or so.


Roland Schinzinger
Ph.D.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691

Dear Steven,

Thank you for your kind words of sympathy regarding my loss. We both share similar feelings.

In your letter you asked my opinion:  I think it is a miracle that your device works.
Exactly how it converts energy is elusive to both of us at this time. That does not
mean we shouldn't apply ourselves to know for sure. My offer to work with you still
stands. I understand your difficulties with the gentlemen you work for and I will not
take your decision personally. I will be glad to talk to you and help you all I can.
My offer to work on the project was made with the greatest respect and not as some
kind of justification to the Foremost Corporation. I told them that from what I could
see of your units they did supply substantial amounts of both voltage and current. I
told them I could not give any indication of the value of the discovery without
knowing more about it. I did recommend that they invest necessary funds to continue
working on the discovery and that I was interested in working with you. That is about
all I said to them on the subject. Anything you may have heard to the contrary is not true.


To further our discussion, the reason you can not use small transformers within or at
close proximity to your unit is because of the leakage fields of magnetic flux. They
induce currents into nearby circuitry and most likely cause frequency changes in the
operating point of the control unit. Remember when you inject even a small frequency
component into sensitive frequency dependant equipment you can have a disaster. That
is exactly what I believe is occurring when you try to use a transformer close to your
units.  There will be all kinds of harmonics present within this field extending past
the radio frequency range. If I were to compare the two I would say that toroidal
transformers would be more susceptible. This may be contrary to common thought.
Toroidal transformers have all their flux aligned with the grain of the steel used
in them. This is the reason for their reduced size as compared with E I cores. When
operated at higher flux density you can permit a smaller core. Toroids will always
saturate quickly, however, E I transformers ramp up to saturation levels slowly. If
anything, I would suggest you work with E I rather then Toroids. In either case I
believe you will find that you will have to place the inverter well outside the collector
coils.

You may also leave a message for me at my office at the University of California Irvine.

Sincerely,

Roland

==============================================


Quote
Roland Schinzinger
PhD.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691

December 1, 1995

Dear Steven,

Thank you for dinner the other night. I truly enjoyed the experience
and the ride home together. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

When you get to be my age Steven you have learned how not to ruffle feathers.
If I were in your shoes I would do exactly what we discussed.

I have talked to my associate about the problems as you see it involving the heat
created by your unit when generating power. He is willing to assist us in finding
a solution and he does not feel it is an insurmountable problem.

The current involved no matter how slight must be a contributing factor, regardless.
We must first consider all the working principles and decide how to go about solving
the problem.

I look forward to seeing you and your unit at my laboratory around eight thirty on
Saturday morning.

I will have only one observer and we will be otherwise alone.
I promise you that we will give an honest evaluation of everything we observe and
will attest to what we find.

If you need to talk to me first you may leave a message for me at my office at
the University of California Irvine.

Sincerely,

Roland

===================

Second test report:


Quote
Roland Schinzinger
PhD.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691


Second report on Energy Device

At the request of Steven Mark I agreed to thoroughly test his invention of
an energy device "toroid" at my laboratory at the UCI campus.
With me was John Sanchez who will act as an observer and Mr. Mark who will
operate his device for the tests.

The device is reported to develop measurable amounts of electric power beyond
any known battery or storage device. In fact the inventor claims that his device
will create electric power indefinitely as long as it is permitted to cool at intervals.

Mr. Mark arrived promptly at 8:30 AM and wasted no time in permitting my examination
of two units.
The first unit was roughly shaped like a large donut. It measured approximately 4.72"
across with an inside diameter hole of 3" making a core width approximately 1" thick
The unit was exactly 2" tall, resembling a "Toroid". I did not measure the weight however
the unit was extremely light when held in the hand.

Mr. Mark connected the unit directly to a 100 watt 120 volt incandescent light bulb
and caused the unit to operate. It did in fact illuminate the incandescent bulb quite
brightly. I measured the voltage at 137 volts D.C. exactly, (ObS). See note*
I then measured the current flowing through the wires to the bulb at a steady
one-ampere, (ObS).
We noted the time at 9:06 AM.,(ObS).
We next measured the light output from the bulb with a luminescence meter and
noted that it read2.5, (ObS). Next we measured a similar incandescent bulb placed
in a socket powered from the main 120 volt (as measured) AC power provided to the
laboratory. It measured 2.4 on the luminescence meter. This can probably be accounted
for because the voltage as measured from the Toroid device is 137 volts and therefore
12 volts greater, generating a slight increase in light output over the incandescent
light powered by the laboratory main power supply system.
The toroid device did indeed provide the standard voltage and current necessary to
provide electric lighting for a 120-volt circuit.
The inventor then asked us for another bulb, which we provided him and he set about
connecting the second bulb along with the first.
The second bulb was connected in parallel to the first and did indeed light just as
brightly as the first.
I measured 137 volts now across the output just as before although the load had doubled
and the impedance halved (ObS).
I measured the current flowing to the two bulbs at just less then 2-amperes, (ObS).
The inventor stated that the unit would provide the two amperes at 137 volts for several hours,
if not indefinitely. We were cautioned that the unit while in operation would generate heat
leading to self-destruction if not shut down and permitted to cool. He claimed that after
cooling the unit could be restarted and used again over and over.
We permitted the first unit to remain in operation and provide power for the two incandescent
bulbs while we turned our attention to the second larger unit the inventor brought with him for testing.

The second unit was again toroid shaped with a large hole in the center. It was approximately
15" at the outside and 13 " inside with a core thickness of approximately 1".  The unit was 4"
tall. The unit was not measured in weight but could be easily lifted with one hand, (ObS).

The inventor started the second larger unit in operation and cautioned myself and Mr. Sanchez
not to touch the output leads from the device as they were at lethal potential. The time was
9:39 AM.
The inventor measured the output leads and told us there was 600 volts potential at several
amperes.
He connected the unit to five 120 volt 100 watt incandescent light bulbs as provided by myself.
The larger second unit did indeed brightly light the five incandescent bulbs brightly. These
bulbs were wired in series.
I measured the current through the wire connected to the 5-bulbs at 1.1 ampere, (ObS). I
measured the voltage at 614 volts D.C., (ObS).

The inventor then connected another five 120 volt light bulbs along with the first five
making a total of ten 120 volt, 100 watt incandescent light bulbs lighting at equal intensity.

I measured the light output with a luminescence meter at 2.43 each light bulb, (ObS).
I did not measure the current but calculated it to be 2 amperes at 614 volts.
I asked the inventor if this was the limit of the unit and he replied, "by no way."
He provided a quick blow fuse rated at 50 amperes.
With two large electrical clamps and wiring, he shorted the fuse across the output
terminals of the toroid and destroyed the fuse, (ObS). There was only a slight flickering
of the ten incandescent bulbs as observed although there was a tremendous discharge of
sparks from the output terminals of the toroid unit.
The inventor then gave me the fuse for examination. It was warm to the touch and smelled
acrid, (ObS). It was a large 240 volt AC air conditioner disconnect fuse and designed for
severe service duty, (OsS).
The inventor's claim that the large toroid output terminals were at lethal potential was
no longer in question.

The time was 11:20 AM when the inventor removed the small toroid unit from operation because
of heat build up.
I examined the small toroid unit and it was indeed quite hot to the touch.

The unit had been in steady operation for exactly two hours and fourteen minutes.
  Noted: 2-hours and 14 minutes, (ObS).

The load of 2- amperes at 137-volts did not change through the test period.

I can personally state that I do not know of any battery or storage device of this
size or weight with this capability.


The time was 12:47 when the inventor removed the large toroid device from operation.
It had been in constant operation for three hours and eight minutes.
Noted: 3-hours and 8 minutes, (ObS).

The load of 10-amperes and the voltage of 614 volts did not change throughout the test
with the exception that the voltage did began to fluctuate at 12:03 and began a slight
decline to 598 volts by the end of the test. This could be due to heating of the unit
while in operation.

I can personally state that I do not know of any battery or storage device of this
size or weight with this capability.

I cannot determine how many hours the toriod units could potentially operate because
of our limited time available for testing.
I can however state with relative certainty I believe the tests show great potential
for this Toroid technology.



December 12, 1995                                                      Roland Schinzinger

*note:  (ObS)  "also observed by John Sanchez".

[Hoppy]

@ Cheappower2012: I read a lot of this way back but I've not seen a copy of the actual document that bears the correct formatting, list of test equipment used and most importantly the Profs signature which is necessary for a valid document of this type. The Prof died in 2004, so I doubt if the validity of this report will ever be verified conclusively.