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Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

Started by gammarayburst, December 03, 2013, 04:51:41 PM

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gammarayburst

The ring magnet tests shows so clearly that the iron rod will move freely through the magnetic field after it passes the end of the rod and moves into the middle length of the bar. No car test needed. The magnet needs to be in a floating position in these tests. Equal but opposite forces on the magnet poles.
If you have to do a car test, glue the top of one car to the top of another identical car then put the two cars between two plates in a near floating condition so all pull force on the cars will be equal but opposite. Then it will roll!
Butch

gammarayburst

 I found that I could have two rods touching each other and still have them pass through as if they were one,, many chained together actually and when one fell off of the chain underneath I could pick it back up and place it on top,, and scavenge that released magnetic potential.

I have played with magnetic forces a lot, and with all the time I have spent playing with magnets I am still not tired of them.

Floor,

Yes I have done many tests playing with eddy currents and tried all sorts of materials in all sorts of orientations,, I have not had any "back up" so that is interesting.  I have had them slow down to almost a stop and then speed up again but I considered that a function of saturation and stuff.  I have also played with shear field effects,, they are interesting.

Webby1,
Thanks for the input, it's a great help. I wanted to also tell everyone about a powdered iron that is available that through a special process causes each little sphere of iron to have a thin plastic coating and no current can flow from one sphere to the next. This eliminates eddy currents. Also the way transformer cores are stacked in razor thin layers and separated by a non-electrical conductor paper or coating just as thin will greatly reduce eddy currents due to the high electrical resistance of the thin metal.
So eddy currents are  not a problem with Pseudo Solid operation. the only problem I see is that the .005" air gap between each pole and the plate require a very precision and rigid machine. Please keep working with floor and myself so we can prove Pseudo Solid Principle is a key to taping free energy.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

gammarayburst


Webby1 said,"I found that I could have two rods touching each other and still have them pass through as if they were one,, many chained together actually and when one fell off of the chain underneath I could pick it back up and place it on top."
Webby1, This is where I got the name "Pseudo Solid" because the magnet see's the rod as one solid rod, not two rods.
Butch

norman6538

  The Lafonte reciprocating principle
To make a motor device we start with two bars with magnets together then
1.   easily sliding one magnet to the other bar makes the bars
separate  via the lafonte repel and work 1 is done
2.  then sliding that magnet out of range will stop the repel and
the bars will attract back together and work 2 is done.
3.  then sliding the same magnet back into the repel position
and the bars separate again, then repeat at 2.

If the force required to do the two slides in 2 and 3 is less than
the work done by the repel in 2 and attract in 3 then we
have a working OU motor.

You could take a quick shortcut and measure the forces/work done
to assure yourself that it can or can't be done.

May this be your BIG Christmas present this year Butch.

Norman

Floor

I think that there are many embodiment possibilities for the principles. I just generated a "simple" one in the drawing set (15 steps in the cycle).  He Ha

I have been considering possible optimal lamination orientations.   I think that because of the nature of the needed movements during the magnet reorientations  to line up for the power stroke,  proper design can give exceptionally  good results. 

There are a number of refinements in terms of the geometry of the bar components that would optimize magnetic saturations.

All together, I'm pretty well certain that even a minor variation of the device in the LaFonte engine drawings would self run, if the (lineup of magnet orientations for  the power stroke) is done at very slow speeds. 

I mean even with out the use of laminations etc.

But I don't see any way to make the principles run  linear /  non reversing and with out latching.  I'm just saying that at this point ( I ) don't see it, someone else may figure it out,  but I think  latching / right angle interactions / and reversing motions may be  the essential nature of the beast.

Like I have said before congratulations.
                                                        Floor

          Even while spending considerable force in the magnet  set up for the power stroke,  I think there's plenty left over.