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Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

Started by gammarayburst, December 03, 2013, 04:51:41 PM

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Floor

@GammaRayBurst

Question?  see attached
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norman6538

Butch I need a little writeup describing how this works.
I think the magnets move back and forth and the "V" rocks
back and forth and thus power is available. And how do you
account for the work required to slide the magnets up the ramp?

My problem with magnets is that they are stronger when closer and
weaker when farther away. That is a nasty factor to compensate for.
And then you have the disadvantaged leverage to compensate for also.

The only thing that really nails this is measurements.

I do have a permanent magnet device that is OU but then comes
the problem of reseting the device so that it can be repeated and thus
self reciprocating.
For instance lets say you have a lever that will lift 100 ft lbs with 50 ft lbs
but then it takes 60 ft lbs of work to reset it so it can repeat.
You can see that self reciprocation is not possible unless the reset work
is less than 50 ft lbs.


I have drawings of several permanent magnet devices but when you consider
what I said above and get the measurements they fall short - So a drawing is
simple a jump starter idea but the end results are in the measurements.

Norman

gammarayburst

And how do you
account for the work required to slide the magnets up the ramp?
Norman


Norman, If you lay it on it's side then the magnets are 90 degrees to gravity and it's not up hill. It's like a 4000 pound car that's rolls along a level road.
You are not lifting it, your moving it down the road. Also, if you did operate it up right as in the drawing that would be fine because the potential energy you put in the magnets when you pushed them up hill would be returned to the system when they fell down with the bar back to level.
Butch

gammarayburst

Quote from: Floor on March 20, 2015, 12:44:31 AM
@GammaRayBurst

Question?  see attached
               cheers
Floor, the operation in practice would be with it on it's side so bars are not being pushed up hill. There is also a .005" air gap between the bar and the lower assembly. Also a .005" air gap between the magnet poles and the bar surface.
Hope this helps!
Butch