M Drive reactionless drive invented by me

[tim123]

I'm willing to discuss the mechanism in detail if you want...
Basically, when the scaffolding the gyros are attached to starts to rotate, the gyros will want to align themselves with the rotation. In this case it means they "pull" forward. So whenever the gyros are spinning around they will want to pull forward.

Thanks
  Isn't there a back-force on the frame from the gyro's precession forwards?

This vid shows a test of double-spinning gyros, it's pretty good:
Gyroscope flying saucer precession UFO (RimstarOrg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrAdABFrSlI

When you decrease the rotational speed of the scaffold, springs will try to pull the gyros back to their starting position. It's at this point that the center of gravity of the machine shifts and starts to move forward.

Agree that this bit would work...

Regards
Tim

[M Drive Inventor]

  Isn't there a back-force on the frame from the gyro's precession forwards?

This vid shows a test of double-spinning gyros, it's pretty good:

Yes. The arms that hold the gyros are quite heavy, I think around 2 kilograms (roughly 4.5 pounds) each. When these arms, along with the gyros, move forward, that's when the wagon part will move back. This is normal Newtonian physics though.

Yeah, that video shows something that's been known for quite a while now, and it's been proven not to produce any propulsion or "weightloss". If I remove the springs from my invention it becomes utterly useless.

(PS. I edited my previous reply to you.)

[conradelektro]

@M Drive Inventor:

Because you write about Gyros, this did not work http://www.rexresearch.com/kidd/kidd.htm

Looking at your video, it seems to be exactly "stick and slip". Making the rails moveable themselves will not show you much. Whatever you do (as long as it is not "free floating in space"), you will have the "slip stick" situation. In space you will end up exactly where you started from.

The only way to get "action" from a weight is to throw it away. Any way trying to catch it (gyros or whatever) will give you the equal "reaction".

You will not want to hear that and you will think that you can overcome this fact or law, but please consider that exactly the gyros have been studied in this respect endlessly without success.

I appriciate research and building strange things, but do not destroy your life by hanging on to a dream which is easily disproven by 200 years of science. If it is only a hobby, fine, but if you are combining great expectations with your ideas, you will be in for a bad surprise. If you have enough money, I would not worry. But if you are taking on big hardships, you should reconsider and scale back your efforts.

I do not want to destroy your efforts but I wish you do not hurt yourself. Study a bit the physics of what you are trying and you will learn a lot.

Greetings, Conrad

[M Drive Inventor]

@M Drive Inventor:

So to summarize your position, "Please stop, we already know everything"?

I appreciate that you're only trying to look out for me and all, but I think you'll change your tune once I produce a video where I make the M Drive perform roughly the same motions, but without the gyroscopes spinning. Something I only figured out how to do just now.

If I do that, and the M Drive refuses to move like in the Youtube video, it's more or less proof that the gyros at least affect the propulsion in some way, even though, as you say, "we already know that they can't". (Also, I haven't found a single gyroscopic propulsion experiment that did what the M Drive does.)

[telecom]

I've red of a different idea in this respect.

As you have rightly noted, there is always a reaction which acts opposite to a force.

But according to what I've red, the direction of the reaction can be controlled.

For example, there were so called automatic lathes, popular before the advent of NC machinery. In these lathes the travel of the cutting tool was controlled by the cam, and the force was transmitted through the steel balls located side by side  inside of the metal tube. This tube could take any direction in space, and the force would follow this direction.

The same method could be applied to the reaction force by changing its direction, making it instead of the opposite, concurrent...