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Overunity Machines Forum



M Drive reactionless drive invented by me

Started by M Drive Inventor, December 08, 2013, 01:45:09 PM

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M Drive Inventor

The subject is being discussed here as well:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/72265-Could-a-Gyroscopic-inertial-thruster-ever-work/page33

The user N_las just posted a graph showing the median position of the dot, which is interesting because you can clearly see that doing cycles is accelerating the machine forward. In video 17 the laser dot spends more time on the left side (the direction the machine is designed to travel towards) than the right as well. By almost 10% nonetheless.

So, it's exciting to say the least. I know I'll have to do more experiments, but... yeah, exciting! :)


TinselKoala

But it's not the "median position of the dot" that is important, it is the position of the _center of mass_ of the oscillating system.

Many people have been fooled by this. The center of mass of the system shifts a bit, so the pendulum _suspension_ or indicator system shifts also.... but the true center of mass remains directly under the suspension point, or oscillates symmetrically about that position.

M Drive Inventor

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 11, 2014, 07:44:39 AM
But it's not the "median position of the dot" that is important, it is the position of the _center of mass_ of the oscillating system.

Many people have been fooled by this. The center of mass of the system shifts a bit, so the pendulum _suspension_ or indicator system shifts also.... but the true center of mass remains directly under the suspension point, or oscillates symmetrically about that position.
Unfortunately you can't measure the center of mass at all times in this system. If I had another set of gyros that moved perfectly out of phase with the other two, which would be a tremendously complex machine to build, then you could simply attach a laser pointer to the "frame" and measure the CoG.

The dot _is_ static to the center of gravity when there are no cycles being performed though.

M Drive Inventor

I just performed a new pendulum experiment, and I have some very interesting results. I'm mainly posting in this thread:

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/72265-Could-a-Gyroscopic-inertial-thruster-ever-work/page40

This is a copy of my reply there:

Just back from performing the experiments. I got some really interesting results, and I'd like your opinions on them. For one, it really does look like it passes the pendulum test. While I couldn't get the dot to stay on one side 100% of the time, it really does look like it spends a lot more time on the left side than the right.

There's about 25 videos recorded, but here's a few of them.

This is a short intro, showing the setup and how the gyros are positioned:
https://mega.co.nz/#!AZxmUDSJ!_LThPqScqb2E73QzvMPjJbvyYlXOl7GMm1VCJW7aDOg

3 good videos, probably the best so far. The numbers after the video number are timestamps where something interesting happens. So "0019-0054" means "check out 00:19-00:54".
https://mega.co.nz/#!8ZRxwIjT!a7fUclUDgHn-15bquqHMQLMfZe2oWoRBTE2MaA76cDc
https://mega.co.nz/#!5FAXzTAR!xa5Zwau8I5tHlLkMW3Xt-HV_-aXqddLsOgpS5y6v4nQ
https://mega.co.nz/#!kEoxSBDZ!d5d0jbH5TWoLm22N6_zgEklYfR7YiUnuAKQIlEWcwZs