Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[Cap-Z-ro]

From what I have been able to find on negative impedance, the subject would just take this thread off in another direction...thereby causing yet another distracti8on.

Farmhand, I have a feeling you have much to say on the subject, and recommend that you open another thread to discuss the issue there.

That way you don't have to go back on your word.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Regards...

[barbosi]

First I apologize for going back on my word about not posting any more here, but I just want to ask a simple question to Barbosi, so that I can improve my knowledge.

Barbosi, can you please clearly define what exactly is negative impedance ?

Cheers

Before I direct you to text book explanation, I have a few words to say. I do not claim that Luc's disclosure (and I think he does not claim it eighter) that the presented phenomena is something new to the established science. It's just that some aspects are still unexplored, or rather not thought in classes because of the monetary implications on electric power producers. They charge for undeserved "merchandise" or "service" pretty much like the tax carbon which should apply to any breathing living creature, people, wolfs, chickens or dolphins, or ... you name it. Some other companies charge you for delivering poisoned water or food and they want too their little dirty secrets not to be exposed. In this monetary world, many make undeserved money like the insurance companies, or inflate the prices because they simply want more money. Was I clear enough?
If one decides sign out, produce his own electric power and tries to maximize it's effects, then it better looks to unexplored aspects of theories known already by established science.

Now if you are a genuine researcher, here is the accepted theory sold as knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_resistance
It is a starting point but if you cling on difference between "resistance" and "impedance", keep reading down to the chapter "Impedance cancellation" and from now on you won't be spoon fed. This is because I won't go in semantics wars.

Regards.

[Farmhand]

Yeah I already read that and another page, I was wanting you to explain it in Laymans terms and why it is that you mention it, or what benefit or effect it has. No matter maybe Pointy will explain it in simple terms. Thanks for pointing me to a link I have already read, I can use the search box you know.

Cheers

[poynt99]

Hi poynt and everyone,

today we will start the opposite way. Let us hear from poynt the logic of Inverting channel 2.
Maybe this way we can see the light and good chances it will all come together.

Below is the scope shot and circuit of the 1.5k Ohm Resistive load I used in my Tutorial 1 video with probe Inverted.
Please explain why we want the scope to look at a resistive load 180 degrees out of phase, why this is the correct way, how can the scope display a correct math power analysis this way, is the "Mean" or "RMS" the power on the load, if negative why do we want to read it this way, if positive what does this mean? and so on.

Please note that channel 2 probe is set at x1 but scope menu is set at x10. So no need to multiply channel 2 by 10

Thanks for your time

Luc

Luc,

I'm not certain if you're interested in finishing this exercise with me or not, but as you have not responded I can only assume you are not.

I have already tried a few times to answer the above questions, but nothing seemed to click for you. So I thought of another approach, which was to once again go back to a simple DC circuit. As you don't seem interested, I guess we are at an impasse.

In my opinion, understanding the simple DC circuit is absolutely essential to understanding your AC circuit. And I have little desire to restate what I already have to explain the polarities and necessity to invert your CH2 in the scope. It is there in my previous posts.

If you can not, or are unwilling to learn the concepts I am trying to teach with the simple DC circuit, then there is little hope you will understand what is going on with the measurements in your AC circuit.

So I'm asking one last time for your participation in the exercise. Otherwise you'll simply have to wait for my videos to get the answers to all your questions. My preference would be to discuss both, but that is completely up to you.

[poynt99]

This excellent "All About Circuits" page describes precisely what I have been saying, and where I am going with the exercise with the simple DC circuit.

They've already done it all, and almost in the exact same manner I have been presenting the exercise.

LUC, are you familiar with Kirchhoff's Voltage Law? Even if you are, please carefully review the page. Pay particular attention to the orientation of the meter probes for every measurement!

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_6/2.html