Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[poynt99]

If Stefan who is the moderator of this whole site doesn't know about it, then why would I?

That Stefan isn't aware of, nor agrees with my solution to this problem should come as no surprise.

To me the surprise is you writing the above... don't you think I'm taking enough hits from your buddy?...

You mean valid topical questions you ignore like this one about your moto/gen setup? Grow some balls Luc. You're not garnering any respect by whining about and ignoring important pertinent questions. OK, admittedly there was deserved hit. 
http://www.overunity.com/14106/reactive-power-reactive-generator-research-from-gotoluc-discussion-thread/msg381543/#msg381543

Even if it ends up there's nothing useful with what I've shared... who do you think has got more chances to loose respect from other researchers?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this.

Admittedly, you are learning as you blindly plow forward, but along the way it would benefit you immensely for you to stop and seriously consider everything knowledgeable people are conveying to you. You might not only learn faster, but also get the opportunity to fine tune your experiments in such a way that you reach a conclusion much faster and with more knowledge gained. Like for example when I posted that the MOT was not required to get the same effect, which you ignored.

[tinman]

Brad,

The probes in that diagram are positioned to measure GRID power.

Granted, I believe some individuals posting here don't realize this.

Why do we want to measure grid power?. Dont we want to know what the reactive circuit is consuming and giving back?. I tried it the other way,and now voltage lead's current??.

Anyway,i think you will find my video interesting (uploading now). Im hoping Luc will try what i have,and he may then see why the P/in is being reduced when he hooks up his reactive circuit. It seems that my theory was correct,and that the reactive circuit is interacting with the exciter circuit,and reducing it's power consumption. If you crunch the number's,you will see that the combined power across the load resistor and the power drop of P/in,is the exact amount of power consumption drop within the exciter circuit.

This is only in regards to Luc's first setup(motor/generator),and in no way a reflection on the later setup.

[poynt99]

Why do we want to measure grid power?. Dont we want to know what the reactive circuit is consuming and giving back?.

Those are two different measurements. To determine what the net power is (used or returned), we measure the GRID power. To determine how much power is consumed (dissipated), we measure the LOAD power, i.e. the load resistor, which is a DIFFERENT probe configuration.

I tried it the other way,and now voltage lead's current??.

Indeed, probe placement and understanding the ramifications is paramount. My videos will hopefully shed sufficient light on this subject.

Thanks for the video Brad.

[tinman]

Ok,so here is my first test on the reactive generator setup. Please note that this is only to show the effect that the reactive circuit has on the exciter circuit within the generator,and in no way represents accurate measurements of P/in and P/out. It was to show the power already being consumed within the generator itself via the exciter circuit-something that was over looked in other test seen regarding this setup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AM_FoUV3Zs

[poynt99]

I know he is right but you try your best to show us all that we should abort researching Reactive Power.

And your proof of this is where exactly?

What I actually have said or implied is that the results as demonstrated by Luc in his videos are not what they appear to be. In truth the circuit is behaving in a conventional manner, and I intend to show why.