Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[hartiberlin]

Hi Tim,
still a strange waveform, I still guess you have a ground problem there, so that the neutral line
is not fully connected.
Please try at night, where you can switch off all other equipment and only run this circuit and see, if the ringing still
exists...Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[tim123]

Congratulation Hob,
you are the first to replicate the circuit correctly.

I just watched Hob's vid again.

The circuit he has is exactly the same as the one I've posted - except he's using a bulb on the 2ndary - instead of a resistor - after you told me that a bulb was no good... lol. (And he has 2 wattmeters)

I don't know what you think his vid shows, but to me it clearly shows that you cannot rely on a single source of measurement.

Actually, you've not proven that the resistor is dissipating 20W...
...you must confirm that measurement by at least one other means. This mantra has been stated endless times in this forum but it seems to always fall on deaf ears. And to date, no one here has made a single watt of OU power, which proves that they've been wrong 100% of the time they make a claim based on their botched power measurements.

[tim123]

still a strange waveform, I still guess you have a ground problem there, so that the neutral line
is not fully connected.

Hi Stefan,

http://www.emfs.info/Sources+of+EMFs/distribution/Neutral+earth+connections.htm

"According the the rules in the UK:
...you are not allowed to have any connections between the neutral and earth inside the home.  If the home has pme applied, the neutral and earth will be connected at the cutout position (ie at the electricity meter).  But from there on, the neutral should be isolated from earth."

The house is part way through a re-wire too. That may be related. I'll speak to my electrician - if he ever comes back to finish the job...

Regards, Tim

[hartiberlin]

Hi Tim,
yes, do it like Hob and use a 40 Watts bulb on the secondary of the MOT transformer.

You can also try as an additional test to have there in series with the bulb another cap to see, if it will benefit to shift the
phase also on the secondary.

Regarding the mysterious superposition of 100 or 150 Hz sine wave on your 50 Hz wave,
it might be some kind of ground loop current when a big load on the same Line
is running, like a fridge or washing machine or something with a motor in it which draws lots of current.

If I still remember right in the UK where you are based all the electric wall plugs
are standardized and could not be pluged in reverse as at us in Germany, right ?
So your plugs have always the Line and Neutral pins at the same location and every
electrician must obey the rule to have the Line and Neutral at the same position in the
plug everytime, right ?

So maybe if your house wiring is faulty you have the outside ground connected,
where normally the Neutral should be in the plug ?
If this is mixed up throughout your house it could result in Ground current loops and these
induce then these different potential currents when big loads are applied, which could
then also create such overtones as seen in your scope shots.

Compare it to hum noise in audio equipment when ground current loops build
up when you have multiple ground lines connected to an audio mixer...it is probably the same problem...

Try to use an isolation transformer first, before you go into the circuit, that will fix it.
You can also build an isolation transformer from 2 x   12<->230 Volts transformers, by putting
them in series like this: 230 Volts -> 12 Volts ->12 Volts > 230 Volts.

The 2 transformers then should have at least a 50 to 100 Watts rating.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

[Johan_1955]

Hi Tim,
still a strange waveform, I still guess you have a ground problem there, so that the neutral line
is not fully connected.
Please try at night, where you can switch off all other equipment and only run this circuit and see, if the ringing still
exists...Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Tim & Stefan,


About the wave-form: Maybe to check if there is a flux-bridge between Primary and Secondary.
The wave for sure looks like it to me, its mostly simple block of plates between the coils to by-pass?


Regards, Johan