Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[hartiberlin]

Actually, CH2 does need to be inverted (by the scope, not physically) in order to retain proper phase between the voltage and current.

I don´t think so.
Just short out the cap and place a positive voltage on the channel 1 from the grid.
Then a positive input current will flow through the transformer coil
which is registered right in the shunt as a positive value !

So no need to invert the scope channel !

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

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One thing is for sure if the energy companies see people or hear of people doing this they will not be pleased, and take action. People have been put in jail for similar schemes involving the stealing of energy using various means by manipulating their grid.

What I don't get is if it is actually free energy then why can it not be done with a battery and true sine wave inverter, until extra energy is shown using a source of AC other than the grid I don't see valid gains.

You are right.

The best way would be, if LUC would try it again with a high efficiency DC motor in front of his generator and
see, how much DC power he needs to drive the generator. If the DC power into the drive motor will also
not increase, he might be able to scale it up and use the MOT output also via a FWBR rectifier to charge up a supercap
and then run from it the DC motor and close the loop....
But this would probably require at least a factor 10 in MOT size as it seems to depend on iron core.

Maybe it can be done smaller with using higher frequencies and Ferrite transformers...

Regards, Stefan.

[gotoluc]

I don´t think so.
Just short out the cap and place a positive voltage on the channel 1 from the grid.
Then a positive input current will flow which is registered right in the shunt as a positive value !

So no need to invert the scope channel !

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan, you're up late!

I see there's a disagreement

I will be a little more available to help do some additional tests if you think of anything more that would need to be tested.

Luc

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan, you're up late!

I see there's a disagreement

I will be a little more available to help do some additional tests if you think of anything more that would need to be tested.

Luc

Hi Luc,
try to measure again your input power into your AC drive motor.
Can you do it with a different shunt ? Maybe try an 1 Ohm shunt made from SMD
parts. These are pretty noninductive.

I would really like to see in detail, how the input current waveform changes into the AC drive motor, when you apply the load
to the Generator. ( also please show in detail on the scope the phase relationship and the div/cm etc and
also the scope settings...maybe you can record another video ? That would really help.
Maybe take 10 x 10 Ohm resistors in parallel to get the 1 Ohm shunt ?
SHould reduce the inductance also this way.

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Luc,
if you have an 12 Volts DC to 120 Volts AC inverter, just try to power your AC drive motor with the inverter
from a 12 Volt battery and measure at the battery, if  drawing load from the generator will
see any increase into the inverter at the battery.

Okay, this adds losses from the inverter also, but this way you can see quickly  if the DC input power
changes, without needing a DC driving motor !

Regards, Stefan.