An interesting phenomenon I found

[MileHigh]

E2matrix:

Bolding is mine.   Therein lies the problem with assuming nothing will work or telling everyone not to bother with trying a circuit because you think it can't be COP >1 .   If everyone assumes that then there will be no replication attempts and some unnoticed variable will be missed that could have brought about free energy.    I haven't tried this yet due to being busy with other non-energy related things but I intend to do so soon.

When you say that you insult 100+ years worth of science and electronics and engineering.  You are putting your head in the sand, which is your choice.  It's not a question of assuming, it's a question of applying knowledge.  You are in denial of that knowledge.  Yet, how many times have you been through this loop, 50 or more?  That is the true essence of the problem.

I am all for doing some research, but ideally it would be something new.  Playing with batteries, transformers, resistors, capacitors, inductors and transistors is OLD.  It's just a variation on people playing with tube circuits at the beginning of the 20th century.

So when someone presents yet another combination of batteries, transformers, and the other pieces, it is absolutely correct and makes perfect sense to assume that they are wrong.  Then instead of being a cheerleader, one can ask the presenter for more data to back up their claims.  It's just proper due diligence even if you want to believe.

MileHigh

[dieter]

Thanks for agreeing for me, but... ehrm  . Not so fast.


You say you want to see at least 3 working replications, but you do not only not offer to build one, you're even moral-preaching over the heads of the unskilled, not to try such things. No surprise none is trying to do a copy.


I do, and I was also the sceptical who said, when voltage and current are out of phase, then they may pass by the first light one by one and fail to light it up. But that still doesn't explain the Watt Meter. I did a lot of Back EMF experiments in the past and I know the accepted theory about it, basicly that the back-EMF cannot be stronger than the Pulse itself. This is just 1o1 school stuff. But then there's the more special stuff, like you can hit your head on a sonic wall, that was accidently caused by a singing tapwater pipe and none ever noticed any loss in water pressure.


When you say that this is just an ordinary inverter then you didnt watch the diagram . Inverters do not short circuit a coil with its inductor to obtain recursive harmony, nor are they tuned to standing waves.


It is not about standing waves to be used as a source of energy, but to create high stresses, that may contain possibilities bejond "accepted theories". Because resonance for electronics is not equal standing waves at electrical levels. I don't say this device will certainly be OU, but I am still replicating it because it is interesting and doesn't require much hardware.
Milehigh and other Sceptics:
If you can assist us and explain in simple terms where exactly something wrong is, eg. in the diagram, this will be very useful. Although you make the impression of somebody who understood the diagrams, you didn't correct them, why? Instead you utilize this thread for your clerical general teaching ambitions. Your unconditional belief in accepted science seems almost religious to me. That's ok, and what you belief may define your dimension. If you just let the kids keep on playing.


I would really like to go on discussing with xenophed about the device, or with somebody else.


Today I made some more test with the sparkgap device. 5 diodes in series as the  HV Diodes. The relative unsteady rate is not useful for resonance etc. Will now revisit the transistor driver.

[MileHigh]

Dieter:

I don't know the exact mechanism for the oscillation, I would have to scope the circuit and figure it out.  When you see transistors and capacitors and inductors in an oscillating circuit, that means there is some kind of active RLC-style oscillation mechanism.  The fact that just by eye I can't tell you the exact specifics of the oscillation mechanism doesn't matter, everything I state in my previous postings applies.

Since you are a beginner, I have some advice for you:  Try to avoid using the free energy forum buzz words just because other people use them.  Your language is showing that you are absorbing all of the buzz words and catch phrases.  Most of them are meaningless or used inappropriately.  For example, there are no standing waves waves in this circuit and in fact it's ridiculous to even use the term in the context of this circuit.   Another example, you stated, "basicly that the back-EMF cannot be stronger than the Pulse itself."  That is not Electronics 101, and the statement doesn't really make sense.  You are just using catch phrases that don't really have a meaning.  You talk about "high stresses."  High stresses give you nothing with respect to somehow getting extra energy.  It's nothing more than a false belief that you read and you yourself are now prepared to believe.

Is there any rule that says that I have have to build a replication?  People can try whatever they want, and also get comments from people with differing views.

If you want to discuss this circuit more with Xenophed that would be great.  The first thing to do would be to figure out how the oscillator works.  Once you understand that you can start to try to make proper energy measurements on it.  That will require a scope and some applied knowledge, and perhaps some contributors to the thread can help.  But for sure with 100% certitude, the input power from the battery source will be split into waste heat power dissipated in the oscillator circuit itself, and the balance of the power will be burnt off in the load resistor.  i.e.; input_power = heat_power_in_oscillator + heat_power_in_load.  You will not find one nanowatt of excess power if you were capable of measuring to that level of precision.  As was stated before, there will be a very very tiny amount of RF radiated power but you will not be able to measure it.

MileHigh

[xenophed]

The oscillator works just like the one in lasserhacker except which ever direction the output coil goes it turns on one transistor. I will note that where I live we deal with 90-100% humidity daily. And also it works like a class c amp hence the tank circuit to tune to natural resonance of coil
p.s. the reason for the reversed led's is to know when you have oscillation. Sometimes a thump of q1 or q2 will start and you will only have about 15-25 mA current draw there is an option I am currently working with to feed a single to the two bases also I have really bad headaches from broken neck so I do not get on the computer everyday I will have a how to video in a few when I feel up to it

[dieter]

Thanks for the reply, Xenophed. I still got problems with those Qs, as they are connected in a way that is a lil contradicting, compared to the teachings...


As a quick test I decided to half rectify a AC 12 V output from a Supply (50hz mains) twice, one time reversed, then added 2 zener diodes to reduce the pulsewidth, too bad I had no infos on their specs, so they gave a lil smoke when I pushed 15 Watts trough them and went byebye. But basicly that would be a way to create a squarewaveish signal without Transistors, although fixed at 50 or 60 Hz. And this was of course without to be out of phase, which could be added with a C of the right capacitance.
How important is the shape of the pulse anyway, do you think a squarewave would be best to get a max. back emf? Or is it uncritical and even sinusoids could be used?


I also did some 555 >Transistor drivers in the past, as well as schmitt triggers, but it all seemed fuzzy to me, and in fact I am not a huge fan of transistors due to their obvious tendency of heat dissipation.


Looking forward to read/see more from you.