Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills

Cap-Z-ro · April 14, 2014, 10:26:23 PM

Thanks for speaking out vbid...its important in changing the atmosphere to one of free expression of ideas.

The more who like you who make their presence and viewpoint known, the more those who are attacked or ridiculed for their ideas will feel emboldened to push back, knowing they have strong support.

And thanks SMonkey...it was a dirty job that needed doing...people were reluctant to freely express their thoughts due to the prevailing atmosphere of derision permeating the site.

So in order to counter balance the negativity this thread attracted, I had to make it entertaining, in a bawdy fashion, in keeping with the flow of the blow back.

Such is the life of a writer on embarked on another less fulfilling life path.

As I touched upon above, some people (men) can't take it, and walk away.

Speaking as someone who grew up in an abusive situation, I learned to stand up for myself...my brother became timid.

As you can see, my 'line in the sand' is when 'anyone' is abused in my presence...so, I guess we concur on that point...I'm just more inclusive thats all (sorry, I'm hostage to any funny line).

I know a lot of very smart people who are very timid and would stop posting if attacked.

I want to hear what those people have to offer...which is what prompted this thread.

So glad you enjoyed the journey.

Regards...

Cap-Z-ro · July 20, 2014, 05:07:00 PM

Time for another chapter:

This one is dedicated to the sheer lunacy and arm flailing of the pseudonym 'MileHigh' and the operatives at that designated keyboard.

it appears that entity may have switched operators due to stress related issues.

New member TheoriaApophasis started a very thought provoking and mind stimulating thread http://www.overunity.com/14767/ultimate-proof-of-magnetic-vortex-free-book-and-videos/#.U8wXEEA3f7o

...which like clockwork IMMEDIATELY attracted the crow like eye of the 'MileHigh' entity saw the potential of the info put forward and pounced on him like a cat in heat.

After waiting the length of time another of the usual suspects stated to tag team Theo (TA) by heaping generous portions of ridicule at him.

Seamonkey is to be commended for entering the fray lending support to TA...and honorable mention to member 'steeltpu' and E2matrix.

No page 7, TA was finally able to stuff the MH entity back in the box for a time.

My gratitude expressed:

" TA,

My thanks in in someone (you) finally putting that long winded loud mouthed schnook in his place.

Its just a shame a few of the others didn't take a kick at the tar baby.

Regards..."

A cuppla well educated and respected members entered, giving the MH entity another reason to exist...again.

As often happens I grew tired of the dog and pony antics of this disruptive shillery, engaging the MH entity...quickly raising his/its blood pressure enough to send me a PM of a loonacy laced complaint he/it purportedly sent to ADM.(copied below)

He/its frustration grew to the point where he/it may have switched operators..launching into an insane very distasteful diatribe relating to AIDS, which would certainly be offensive to any members or readers who have lost a loved one to this terrible disease.

I stopped engaging the miscreant because to continue on would be giving him/it cause to further disrupt these potentially very fruitful proceedings.

TA was however, able to sway one seemingly honest (but until now at least gullible member) into seeing the light and conducting some potentially very relevant experiments.

He/it/they likely won't spent much time and energy defending their "good names" here tho...because they will not be disrupting anything...and likely wooden get paid for that.

Here's how things played out...

MH

" SeaMonkey, Captain Zero:

When you try to imply that I am a "paid operative" or whatever, I consider that reckless endangerment and you potentially put my life in danger. If my name ever slipped out, then it would take five minutes to know where I live and where I work and what I look like.

The percentage of mentally unstable people on the free energy forums is certainly much higher than that of the general population. I don't want a nutcase to drive an icepick through my skull while I am walking down the street. Do you get that? Stop trying to imply that I am something that I am not because you recklessly put my life in danger when you do that. I don't give a sh*t if the chances are small, it doesn't make any difference. You guys disagree? Then both of you go ahead and post your real names, your pictures, where you live, and where you work. Not going to do that because you are uncomfortable with that? No sh*t!

Just recently Captain Zero took some pot-shots at me and then actually made a posting ENCOURAGING other people to attack me. Captain Zero, you stop that also. Do you understand me?

I am not going to be murdered by some psychotic pulse motor psycho that is being egged on by some free energy sourpuss that dislikes rational thought, and you two stop it right now.

MileHigh "
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CZ

" Quote: SeaMonkey

" When men get all hypersensitive and start talkin'
like "wimmin" - it's the old power thing again.

Insult - Schminsult - now you guys are starting to
sound like Erron over at EF.

The Attackers here are very skilled at provoking
confrontational exchanges; they're also very
good at deflecting responsibility. They seem to
think their privileged status exempts them from
the rules of good order and discipline. That they
have earned the "right" to play mischief in their
attacks.

Nothing is more pathetic than a Forum Man who
can dish it out but can't take the blowback.

You of course know to whom these references are
being made.

Set the Example of Gentlemanly conduct and it
will be found that Courtesy is Contagious.

Unless the Bad Boys persist in their fun...

But remember, there is a better Way. "

'Profoundly stated and undeniably true.'

And yes TA was somewhat condescending toward MH...but deservedly so...and is appreciated by me fror doing what NOBODY else around here has done...and that is make MH go silent.

The serenity was welcomed by many, but alas, short lived, as he has found shelter in the intervention of other wise but honest members who have begun to engage the theories of TA.

Rarely has someone (MH) who knows so much done so little.

Wattsup and GB are two of the most knowledgeable members here, and people I respect and lean from...the other usual suspects, I have learned its best to scroll on by.

Their focus is on constructive ideaology, as opposed to the destructive negativity espoused incessantly on newly raised subject matter.

Such activity is regularly used by the gatekeepers to stunt the outgrowth of new concepts, which many times is the outcome of failed experiments.

Carry on 'gentlemen'.

Regards..."
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MH

" Captain Zero:

Stop whining because people say things that you don't want to hear.

MileHigh "
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SeaM

" Miles,

I certainly don't wish for you to be discouraged in
any way. I really do enjoy reading your postings
and believe you perform a valuable service within
this forum.

It's unfortunate that you feel fearful of your well
being. I can't imagine anyone seriously contemplating
a physical attack upon your person. But of course
one never knows.

The level of paranoia that you're demonstrating is indeed
discomfiting. For what it's worth I've never gotten the
impression that you're a "paid operative."

Be well and keep doin' what you do. With as much
gentlemanly consideration as you can muster.

Quote from: MilesHigher

I threw my CMOS chips and my TTL chips and my
PALs and GALs and transistors and MOSFETs out
about 20 years ago!

I sincerely hope that you mean you donated those
valuable items to a worthy experimenter rather
than actually throwing them out!

Waste not, want not..."
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MH

" SeaMonkey:

Well thank you for stating that you don't think I am a "paid operative." I don't want you to ever even slightly imply it in a future posting.

You are from the Navy and you must know the logic of submarine warfare. I think TK knows it also. Something like "Type I, II, and III" errors. If you are in a submarine, you can't afford one of those errors no matter how slight the chances are because a mistake would mean certain death.

A few years ago I read a posting by some pulse motor builder and he talked about how many weapons he had and how he was willing to fight it out to the death with the Feds in some kind of "Ruby Ridge" scenario - for a bloody PULSE MOTOR.

How may postings have we seen from "crazy people" that show up for a day or two and say crazy stuff and then disappear never to be heard from again? The answer is lots.

If you and other people like Captain Zero and people like him keep on saying or implying over and over that I am a paid operative or I am with the MIB then that can sink in with one or more mentally unstable regulars or one or more mentally unstable regular lurkers.

How many times do you see even "mainstream" regulars around here and on the Energetic Forum make comments that some medium to high-profile free energy proposition disappeared because they "probably threatened his life." You see that ALL the time.

I can't afford a "Type II" (whichever) error. I do NOT WANT mentally unstable people to read over and over that I am some "evil paid operative."

That applies to you, Captain Zero, E2matrix, and anybody that does it. Any posting that has even the slightest whiff of implication that I am some kind of evil person in the employ of some evil entity will be reported. It's time for this nonsense to stop.

MileHigh "
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CZ

" Just what do you think people are to conclude when one engages in the type of conduct that your continually do ?

If you wish that people will stop calling you a thief, then it only makes sense to stop doing things that make you look like a thief...its that simple.

If I had half your technological background, i would have had a free energy device a long time ago...or I would have collaborated with a like mind to create one.

How about contributing instead of quashing ideas for a change ?

Watch what happens to your reputation when you explore new 'out of the box 'ideas instead of stifling everything raised for discussion...or simply butting out when you have nothing positive to offer.

You are your own worst enemy.

Hasn't it occurred to you that I do not critisize people like wattsup and GB and the like...and why you and a few othere here are singled out ?

Do not pretend to be that dense that you cannot see how you come across on here.

Regards... "
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MH

" Captain Zero:

In a virtual sense, you don't realize that you have on thick glazed glasses that make you look like there are two eyeball-sized spheres on your face. It's that bad. You spilled your beans there but I already knew it.

I will repeat: DO NOT try to imply in any way that I am evil or MIB. I will not tolerate it because there are safety issues to consider.

MileHigh "
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CZ

" Safety issues for a pseudonym ??

In a PIGS eye there are.

I knew it was a waste of time...you are just what you come across as...and the titles come with the territory.

And you come across as a paid disinfo agent...so you will just have to live with that.

Stoopid is as stoopid does. "
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MH

" This will be reported to Stefan. "
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CZ

" ...yes, and he will treat it as seriously as everyone here does...with a yawn...and possibly a burp if he's just eaten. "
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CZ

" Look what this drama queen Mile High just sent me in a PM...Hope you all got a little chuckle of of it too.

" Dear Stefan:

It no fun to be called MIB because I am concerned about mentally unstable people and violence against me. If this is stated over and over it could make someone believe it. Sometime in the future I might go to a conference and literally be in fear of stating my overunity.com handle. It's unacceptable for him to potentially put me in danger.

Captain Zero has to understand that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.

Thanks,

MileHigh "
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TA

" Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on Today at 05:48:36 AM

Look what this drama queen Mile High just sent me in a PM...Hope you all got a little chuckle of of it too.

Hmmm, it looks like garden variety Schizo-affective paranoia disorder "
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CZ

" I'm unsure of a proper diagnosis, but the imbalance is unmistakable.

'Hello this is my first conference - my name is Mile High - er, I mean Larry.'

Regards..."
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MH

" Captain Zero:

That was a stupid move. My concerns are legitimate.

Theoria:

You define what a field is. Also note that you were not even close in explaining the phenomenon in Tinman's experiment. People that are reading this thread that have common sense but perhaps not a big technical background at least have a second opinion on your propositions to contemplate. I find that there is a similarity to Marco Rodin and his coil. Marco doesn't have a clue how a coil works. Likewise, John Rohner doesn't have a clue how a car ignition circuit works. It's like we are in some kooky British comedy from 1957 where a reality disconnect is the underlying comedic theme running through the whole film. Your propositions and theories don't stand a chance in the real world, and when you are put to the test, you fail as expected. It's the Rodin-Rohner model once again.

MileHigh "
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MH

" Captain Zero:

You make me laugh because you in your own way are simply disconnected and living in a dream world. I think both you and E2matrix want to see every free energy proposition go forward, no matter how ridiculous and how many times very similar things have been resoundly refuted as being wrong. That means that you couldn't give a rat's ass about gullible people squandering their money and giving it to criminals. You want to sit back in your armchair and let a bunch of people get burned so you can indulge your fantasies. Throw in your belligerent disregard for my request and your public posting of my email and that makes you one morally bankrupt frustrated guy on a forum where the only thing you can do is passively comment and try to milk the system and get people to squander their hard-earned money for your desires. I am glad that I am not you.

Theoria:

Sorry, but you are just one in an endless line of people with propositions that don't makes sense that clearly can't punch their way out of a wet electronics or electromagnetics paper bag. Lots of big talk and absolutely no substance. You claim 20 years of research and study, but you couldn't even explain Tinman's experiment, not to mention the other basic things that I asked you that you avoided.

Your 15 minutes will be up soon and Captain Zero will latch on to the next guy that comes along and support him, even if the new guy's dubious theories are diametrically opposite to yours. You are just expendable cannon fodder for Captain Zero and in six months you will be long gone and forgotten.

MileHigh "
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CZ

"Anaylis of Mile High activity and intent:

" Captain Zero:

That was a stupid move. [outing his drama queen complaint] My concerns are legitimate. [only if legitimate can be defined as stupid]"

" Captain Zero:

You make me laugh because you in your own way are simply disconnected and living in a dream world. [simple projection strategy]

I think both you and E2matrix want to see every free energy proposition go forward, no matter how ridiculous and how many times very similar things have been resoundly refuted as being wrong. [I cannot speak for E2m but am only interested in unfettered flow and development of ideas as opposed to the paid derailers of same]

That means that you couldn't give a rat's ass about gullible people squandering their money and giving it to criminals. [Blatant violin inducement]

You want to sit back in your armchair and let a bunch of people get burned so you can indulge your fantasies.
[More blatant violin inducement]

Throw in your belligerent disregard for my request and your public posting of my email and that makes you one morally bankrupt frustrated guy on a forum...
[Belligerent disregard for readers ability to go back and see the drama queen's email was not posted...oi vey]

...where the only thing you can do is passively comment and try to milk the system and get people to squander their hard-earned money for your desires.
[Some additional violin inducement for added effect I suppose]

I am glad that I am not you.
[Boy, so am I, because then I wood look like the stoopid paid shill ]

Theoria:

Sorry, but you are just one in an endless line of people with propositions that don't makes sense that clearly can't punch their way out of a wet electronics or electromagnetics paper bag. Lots of big talk and absolutely no substance.
[Theoria = a breath of fresh air (actual ideas) who has stimulated a rather fruitful discourse (and experiments) among some very fertile minds here]

You claim 20 years of research and study, but you couldn't even explain Tinman's experiment, not to mention the other basic things that I asked you that you avoided.
[avoiding bozos is critical to getting things done]

Your 15 minutes will be up soon and Captain Zero will latch on to the next guy that comes along and support him, even if the new guy's dubious theories are diametrically opposite to yours.
[I guess he was unable to locate examples of me doing that...because as usual, he just makes up shit to qualify his delusional drivel]

You are just expendable cannon fodder for Captain Zero and in six months you will be long gone and forgotten.
[Jilted again...like all the other imaginary victims of my fickle flirtations with brilliance]

MileHigh "
[On a permanent high]

Notice that I did not address the shill directly this time...that is because I had only one toe inserted into the road side tar baby, which can then be easily extracted with a slight pull, without using the other foot on his arse to pry out my toe.

For the purposes of continuity I would advise everyone else just scroll by his incessant attempts to disrupt the flow of ideas.

Carry on uninterrupted guys...this is great stuff !

Regards..."
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MH

" Captain Zero:

How is your AIDS coming along? Are you still getting the dizzy spells? Has it started to affect your vision? Your weight was way down last year but has the new drug cocktail made a difference?

I know that you have been coping with it for years and I suppose that you are fortunate because you still have your mobility.

I know it's tough but hang in there, they may have a cure one day.

MileHigh "
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CZ

" Good grief...how looney [was] that ?

WOW "
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MH

" Captain Zero:

Whoops! You say that you don't have AIDS? Well how about that and guess what, I am not a shill. You have to work on getting your brain to process information properly.

On the other hand, you could be a shill. You could be a plant to discredit everything in the realm of free energy by playing the paranoid crazy guy that has a drawer full of tinfoil hats that believes all of the free energy tabloid trash at the checkout line. Who knows, maybe you have AIDS AND you are a shill. Any person that almost always believes in such nonsensical idiocy that sometimes isn't even up to the level of a Grade 5 science fair project must be a shill. You are a plant here to discredit free energy by playing the bovine paranoid rabid believer that accuses people of being a shill all the time.

Now Mr. Shill, you don't want to get jumped by three big burly WITTS farm boys at the next Extraordinary Technology conference do you? They might beat your ass to a pulp for discrediting them because you are a paid government agent with micro syringes filled with your blood. If they find the micro syringes filled with your blood on your person they might beat you to within an inch of your life.

Your best strategy would be to tone down your shilling and not accuse other people of being paid disinformants when you have zero evidence.

MileHigh "
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CZ

" More ""MH drivel:

None of it worth repeating.

Clearly an attempt to disrupt the flow of the thread...possibly another operative at the keyboard.

I will only be contributing to the disruption with further exchanges, so I will go back to watching and learning...and drag him/they/it around the yard in a thread with less significance.

As you were gentlemen.

Regards... "
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MH

" Captain Zero you are the disruptor of this thread and the disruption started at post #215. So either contribute technically to this thread or keep your mouth shut. "
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steltpu

" Quote from: MileHigh on Today at 08:03:40 PM

Captain Zero you are the disruptor of this thread and the disruption started at post #215. So either contribute technically to this thread or keep your mouth shut.

milehigh you are the disruptor here. no one wants your exploration stifling bs here. you only try to stifle discovery and exploration under the guise of saving someone from wasting money which is more bs. no one needs saving. everyone has a choice and self responsibility. many great discoveries have been made by accident. you are either a twisted mind or working for people who don't want any new discovery.

you also have a choice to be here or not. if you feel paranoid about spewing your crap here so go away if it feels unsafe. you try to threaten others here and stifle free speech? that's new for you and shows how desperate you are. it's obvious to everyone here you are way in over your head with TA. all you can do is insult and make foolish attempts to disrupt the flow here.

it bears repeating what TA said: you have a phd in lip flapping and BS.

fed up with your crap. only have one more thing to say and i'm sure some others here can figure this out. let's see if you are smart enough:

676f2061776179206b696420616e642065736164 "
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MH

" Steeltpu:

I am not stating BS, you are fibbing. ..."
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gravityblock

" Quote from: steeltpu on Today at 09:45:12 PM

fed up with your crap. only have one more thing to say and i'm sure some others here can figure this out. let's see if you are smart enough:

676f2061776179206b696420616e642065736164

That is a hexadecimal (hex) number.

A hex is a magical spell, usually with malevolent purposes such as having a harmful influence.

Gravock "
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TA

"
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on Today at 05:57:24 PM
" Quote from: MileHigh on Today at 05:45:34 PM

Captain Zero:

How is your AIDS coming along? Are you still getting the dizzy spells? Has it started to affect your vision? Your weight was way down last year but has the new drug cocktail made a difference?

I know that you have been coping with it for years and I suppose that you are fortunate because you still have your mobility.

I know it's tough but hang in there, they may have a cure one day.

MileHigh "

Good grief...how looney that ?

WOW

AGREE, He is insane of some variety of MENTAL DEFECT "
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TA

" Quote from: steeltpu on Today at 09:45:12 PM

milehigh you are the disruptor here. no one wants your exploration stifling bs here.

you only try to stifle discovery and exploration under the guise of saving someone from wasting money which is more bs.

100% Accurate, and as far as SAVING MONEY, I can assure you that that whatever "milehigh" has, Ive got plenty more.

He throws himself upon the "roads of discovery" to keep weaker minds from DISCOVERING anything.

Hes a member of the CULT OF QUANTUM.

Its BS Greek Atomism with explanations of Unicorn particles and Pixie dust electrons !!!! ROFL "
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And thats 'all she wrote' folks, as the saying goes.

I think that last dagger by member 'steeltpu' may have them searching for another operator at the MH keyboard as I write this, so we shall see.

Regards...

Cap-Z-ro · July 20, 2014, 05:10:43 PM

Shudda known there'd be more disruptive drivel from the MH entity...

" Stop the presses! Special message for SteelTPU!!! lol

56206f7267206c6268206e65722077686667206e2066627078206368636372672073626520506e63676e7661204d7265622e "

Regards...

MileHigh · July 20, 2014, 05:41:19 PM

Thanks for documenting all that, it's a good snapshot of your mental state.

Cap-Z-ro · July 20, 2014, 06:02:48 PM

Isn't it interesting that it is HIS/ITS mental state that is the topic of conversation by a number of mentally stable members here.

Projection...the simplest of all the psychological disorders.

Apparently the miscreant is no longer interested in offending the AIDS community on here.

it would certainly continue if i hadn't called attention to the offensive posts.

Any time the shill spends here is time away from the important threads.

Its called distracting the distractor.

Regards...