Thread for naysayers, nitpickers, and shills

[Turbo]

This thread was put up for the express purpose of debunking all free energy devices presented on ou.com...

Regards...

There is no need for your thread.
You can shove a true and working free energy device under the nose of OU.com members and they won't even notice it.
They are usually too busy arguing and whining to and about each other that the things they are here for pass by without them even noticing it, they are caught up in an ancient game of batteling each other in stead of trying to solve the real problem.
I usually do not have to post on this board but i like you to know that there are other people who do notice the important information burried deep in the flow of concepts presented here or there on this board.
These are not the people who are busy debunking or whining or arguing, these are a select few of people who get things done.
It's just a matter of perception and applying the correct filter to get rid of the noise.
And also, verifying the concepts.
This means a person like that does not even have to the time to or bother getting onto the OU.com battleship.
They realize it's an endless game.
All i can say is,
Get past your ego's and a new world will open up for you.

[TinselKoala]

"You can shove a true and working free energy device under the nose of OU.com members and they won't even notice it."

Let's test that statement for veracity. I dispute it strongly. Please provide a true and working free energy device, and shove it under our noses. Let's see if we notice it, or not.

What I've noticed, in the years I've been on this forum, is that a lot of people will _claim_ they have such, but can't produce evidence when asked. Many other people will _promise_ to provide such, but vanish without doing so, the most recent I can name is "elecar" and his self-looping SMOT promise. Others provide what they think is evidence but on careful examination it turns out to be erroneous, usually due to poor measurements and poor understanding of basic physics/electronics/mechanics etc. Others are pure and obvious scammers and frauds, who claim to demonstrate impossible performances which cannot be repeated by anyone under controlled conditions. What we _never_ have "noticed" is any
"true and working free energy device"... because nobody has actually ever shoved one under our noses.

[Cap-Z-ro]

AS STATED EARLIER, IN ORDER TO DISTINGUISH MY WORDS FROM OTHERS, I WILL USE CAPS:

FARMHAND IS SHOWN IN LOWER CASE IN THIS REPLY

Well this will be my last post here as it does not apply to me,
YET ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR "LAST POSTS" HUH ??

Cap-Z-ro get yourself to a doctor buddy you've lost it, you are getting personal with everyone and to me that says you have personal issues.
YET ANOTHER REVEALING ATTEMPT AT DISTORTING REALITY
MY COMMENTS WERE IN NO WAY DIRECTED AT ANYONE PERSONALLY
INSTEAD, PEOPLE LIKE YOU OBVIOUSLY, WHO SAW THEMSELVES REFLECTED IN MY DESCRIPTION OF THE HARASSMENT AND INCESSANT  BADGERING OF OTHER MEMBERS

What do you think gives you the right to tell anyone else if they can post or not ?
I GUESS ITS USELESS TO ASK FOR YOU TO PROVIDE THE READERSHIP EVEN 'ONE' EXAMPLE OF ME TELLING ANYONE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO POST, RIGHT ?

What gives you the right to post ?
HMM, I DUNNO...MAYBE THE SAME THING THAT GIVES YOU THAT RIGHT

People are most likely leaving the forum because they are tired of people posting all the fake video's they find on the you tube. It would make them wonder weather people are sane or not when they keep posting video's of obvious fakes.
YOU MEAN, LIKE GEOFUSION AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO LEFT...AND LUC WHO MADE ABSOLUTELY NO 'FALSE CLAIMS' WHATSOEVER, BUT HAD TO LOCK HIS THREAD BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU ARE DEFENDING SO DESPERATELY - YOU MEAN 'THOSE' PEOPLE ??

Truth has no fault. And searching for it needs no excuses. It has it's own reason.
ANOTHER DISTORTION...TRUTH  NEVER GETS A CHANCE TO GET ITS BOOTS ON BEFORE THE BADGERING AND NITPICKING SMOTHER ANY MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE DEVELOPMENT OF IDEAS

And I also do not like it when people put their words into quotes of me, it makes no sense and it makes it look like I typed what you typed.
STOP LYING - YOUR WORDS AND EVERYONE ELSE'S WORDS WERE IN QUOTATION MARKS - MINE WERE NOT
AND ANY MISTAKES POINTED OUT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROMPTLY CORRECTED

Sounds to me like you are one of the people against free speech, one who desires that anyone can post anything they like without anyone being able to question it. That is not the way it works.
INCESSANT QUESTIONS BADGERING PEOPLE PRESENTING INTERESTING CONCEPTS AND ANOMALIES TO THE POINT OF FRUSTRATION FALL INTO THE CATEGORY OF FREE SPEECH...NO MATTER HOW YOU ATTEMPT TO SPIN AND DISTORT REALITY

People will have their say no matter what you think because we do not answer to you, you have zero authority over anyone.
THOSE STATEMENTS ARE ACTUALLY FACTUAL TRUE AND ACCURATE - DID IT FEEL WEIRD WHILE YOU WERE TYPING THEM OUT ?

This thread also falls under the moderation of Luc, I want no further part in threads where free speech is not allowed.
YES, I'M SURE THAT LUC WILL AT ANY MOMENT STEP IN AND VIOLATE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH SOMEHOW
READ WHAT YOU ARE TYPING MAN...YOU SOUND LIKE A TOTAL LOON

Reactive power by definition is power that is not dissipated in a load and is returned or is returning to the supply. It does not get any simpler than that. Only real power is dissipated in loads, both real power and reactive power are a fraction of apparent power.

In my opinion this effect will have an explanation similar to the acceleration under load and transformer effects that Luc and Thane pushed for a while back some time. Just my opinion.
A LESSON FROM YOU ON ANY SUBJECT RING HOLLOW AT THIS POYNT
ITS A GOOD BET THAT YOUR HOLLOW WORDS ARE AS CLOSE TO RESONANCE AS YOU'RE EVER GOING TO GET

People like you make vague sweeping accusations but don't actually name anyone,
SO NOW YOU SAY THAT I'M 'NOT' - WHICH IS IT...ARE YOU SUCKING OR BLOWING ?

that is gutless.
SOMETHING YOU ARE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH NO DOUBT

Name the people you think are paid by the government so that they may take legal action against you to clear their names if they wish. You are not anonymous, if a person wants to take legal action, the site admins can be made to provide your details so as to give you a summons.
OY VEY !

Name names or shut the hell up.
THAT SHIP SAILED WHEN THIS THREAD DREW THEM OUT INTO THE OPEN

Gutless wonder,
I CONSIDER THAT HIGH PRAISE CONSIDERING THE SOURCE

keyboard tough guy hey.
TRUTH CAN REALLY BE TOUGH TO DEAL WITH FROM YOUR POSITION CAN'T IT ?

Grow up.
WELL, ONE OF US SHOULD HUH ?

You want to get personal.

Accusing people of being paid government disinfo agents with no proof, you should be banned form the forum.
WELLLLLLLL...WHAT CAN i SAY HUH ? 
I MADE SOME NEGATIVE REFERENCE TO PAID GOV SHILLS
AND YOU TOOK OFFENSE
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT LOOKS TO THE READERSHIP ?

ANY LAST WORDS, OR ANYMORE "LAST POSTS" ?

[MileHigh]

If you step back and look at the big picture, claims need to be explored and discussed because the stakes are so high.  But there are indeed no paid "shills."   Look at what's happening in the potovoltaic and wind power industries, how many additional gigawatts of capacity are being added each year?  Look at the recent policy statements from England for their renewable energy targets.

You have gigawatts and gigawatts of world-wide renewable energy capacity being added each year, year over year, eating into the market share of Big Oil and Big Electricity.   The lost revenue must already be staggering.  Is anybody worried about some guy selling $20K worth of 2H2 + O2 conversion systems per year?  Or somebody playing with a pulse motor in their garage?  There is a strange form of arrogance at play there, something the alleged "shills" get accused of all the time.  Should we rewrite all of the physics text books because of Luc's experiment?  How wise is it to state "there may be something new and not yet understood" when somebody plays with coils, transformers, caps, resistors and magnets?  Or is that a case of "I don't know what I don't know but that's not important."

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

Well, Cap.... _can_ you provide any evidence for your claim that there are paid government shills or "disinfo agents" posting on this forum? I'll wager that you cannot.

And you can use the bbcode tags

to separate your replies from quotations of other's posts... .you do NOT HAVE TO SHOUT.