Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[minnie]

  I know you're there!
               John.

[TinselKoala]

Tom,

TK has omitted the next slide every time he posts that slide.

Of course I reminded him several times of his intentional misleading. Still does it.

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Free flow and equalization is the same function - only concentrated in a ZED.

That slide began to explain how we reduce the input - which Mark and the others avoid at all cost.

I am glad they keep bringing it up.

Here are Slides 26 and 27 AGAIN.

Liars need to have perfect memories, honest Wayne Travis, and you don't. The whole presentation is attached below AGAIN, so that everyone can see that your "explanations" are BS. Be sure to check the "properties" tab so you can see when -- just HOW MANY YEARS AGO -- this Presentation was made, and then look around you today, to try to find anything that actually WORKS.

[TinselKoala]

I wonder if there was any speaking that accompanied that slide, something along the lines of to push the water up on the right and the air down on the left,, blah blah blah,,,

Oh,, that can not be the case because then the slide would make sense.

Kind of like where the other half of the energy goes when equalizing,, or should I ask, how much energy is needed to be applied to stop the water from just accelerating,, that would not happen to be the missing 1\2,, those darn pesky physics.

You actually want audio? I'll have to see what I can do. My agents are everywhere, you know.

Meanwhile here are a couple more pix for your edification. The last one is a screenshot from a hydraulic motor vendor site, showing the flow rate and pressure needed for a typical hydraulic motor to make 18.8 horsepower.  "GPM" means gallons per minute, and "PSI" means pounds per square inch. Webby... do you think you can divert this much "net" flow power from the Zeds we have been shown, so it can be used outside the system? Where, and how? Oh... wait....sorry, we haven't been shown any working Zeds. Never mind. But you might want to think about what kinds of hydraulic pressures and flows Wayne Travis is claiming by claiming "20 kW net" outputs, and you might want to ask yourself where it is supposed to be coming from.

Would you buy a used car from this man?

[TinselKoala]

"how much energy is needed to be applied to stop the water from just accelerating"

You sound like one of those people who believe refrigerator magnets are overunity, because they just keep on keeping on, hanging up on the fridge, holding up your pinup calendar, doing all that work for free, forever.

[mondrasek]

The internal energy decreases where you claimed it increases.

MarkE, I have never claimed that the internal energy increases except when we are adding that exact amount of energy as additional water Volume under Pressure.  This happens from State 1(x) to State 2.

You have shown, and I agree, that the internal energy decreases during the lift from State 2 to State 3.  I would like to see the calculation for the Work performed during that lift, since that Work is also energy that is leaving the system.