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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: markdansie on April 02, 2014, 01:44:35 AM
I kept dividing 42 by the nearest prime and got the calculations needed for an improbability drive. Then I realized this is the secret to all overunity devices, they need to have an improbability drive.
Kind Regards
Mark
I tried dividing by primes and decided to have a nice steak instead.

powercat

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

MarkE

While Webby flails around more or less randomly plugging values into spreadsheet cells, here is the answer key for the quiz.  They correct answers should come as no surprise to most who do not suffer the blindness of Wayne's disciples of duplicity. 

A modest simplification comes out of the exercise:  We may observe that as the pressure increases moving from the outermost ring to the center, that the pressure under a given riser that acts down on the next inward riser's top surface also adds to the pressure that applies to the underside of both the next inward riser's side wall, and ID.  Consequently, for purposes of calculating up lift force, the additional pressure from under higher numbered risers as it applies to lower numbered risers and the pod cancels out by pushing down on an identical total surface area as it pushes up.  We can simplify the up lift force equations to eliminate these terms that cancel each other out.  The results are still exactly the same as shown in the R4 spreadsheet.  If Tom works at it hard enough and long enough he may eventually recognize his mistakes and correct them.



TinselKoala

Well, I am pleased that I was able to get all the right answers to the Quiz, and allow me to point out that LibreEnergia's answers are also correctly encoded in 42-ness.

What I want to know is this..... did anyone get a different answer for Figure 1 than for Figure 3? Because that just might be the key to understanding Travis and the Zeds.....

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on April 02, 2014, 08:14:11 AM
Well markE,, you are wrong againn,,,

Are you talking at all about the actual volume or are you still talking about the calculated pressure lift force?

By the way

http://www.overunity.com/14299/mathematical-analysis-of-an-ideal-zed/msg395435/#msg395435

So you can NOT prove my volume numbers wrong,, I have now applied the correct force value, not in this pic, and it is still higher than your calculated force,, get a grip.

So the weight of the lifted water is less than the weight the lifted water can lift,, so what?
As for your muttering and nearly random number flinging, it's up to you to articulate an argument.  All you've done is flail about.  The R4 spreadsheet generates the exact up lift values that one gets when one correctly calculates buoyant up lift force for each.  Since, you represent your numbers as at odds with the R4 spreadsheet, it is your numbers that are wrong.

You should look at the answer key and the graphic below it.  If you still don't get it, then you probably never will.