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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mrwayne

Quote from: MarkE on March 03, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
The liar speaks with feigned indignation.  Wayne Travis your technology claims are lies.  Cyclically lifting and dropping weights does not yield net energy, period.  Your claims that such activity yields free energy is a lie.  Your pitch that giving you money to "develop" your nonexistent technology does nothing but cheat those who don't recognize your lies for what they are.

Once again - if thats all you see - you missed it.

I spelled it out for you - maybe you think you are making points - but you have wasted two days of my time..

Count that as your victory... you can have it.

good night.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 03, 2014, 08:44:43 PM
Just simple "embarrassment" as I said before.

You can change your log in - but you will always know.

That's all.

Wayne
You may one day be changing your outerwear for the color orange.  Whether you do or not, we already know what you are and who you are.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on March 03, 2014, 08:48:26 PM
Once again - if thats all you see - you missed it.

I spelled it out for you - maybe you think you are making points - but you have wasted two days of my time..

Count that as your victory... you can have it.

good night.
Once again the liar who said he was done her a month ago speaks again.  You have done more than you can imagine.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 03, 2014, 08:49:59 PM
That is a false assumption.
It is Mondrasek's stipulation.  It doesn't matter if it is false or not.  It is his required hypothetical starting point.  The results follow from that requirement.  If you want to set-up a somewhat similar problem with different stipulations, you are free to do so.
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Your spreadsheet shows head differences between the inside and outside water columns for the risers and the pod.  This difference in height represents a positive force of buoyancy, your own work is showing that, and that is for all 3 risers and the pod.

Since that force is there by your own work then the analysis is not complete and the risers and pod must move further to bring those forces back to a net zero.

If I had presented this to you, you would be saying the same thing.  You would point out that all I allowed for was the volume change and that I have not accounted for all of the forces within the system.

Your own spreadsheet shows an increase in stored energy within the water,

3.412mj state 1
3.963mj end of state 3
You're not paying very good attention Webby.  In going from State 1 to State 3 we added 2.441cc of water and paid 2.011mJ to do so.  There would be a real problem if at the end of State 3 we had less energy than in State 1.  But since we don't there is no problem.

TinselKoala

Quote from: mrwayne on March 03, 2014, 08:30:32 PM
Show me your contributions to freedom from fossil fuels.

Thanks
Why? This thread is not about me, and I have made no claims within it, other than that you do not have what you said you have, years ago now.

And it would be trivial for you to put me in my place, if you did have it. All you would have to do is to show it. But you can't, and we both know why.

You do not have an actual, physical "self running machine" that requires no input, has no exhaust and produces excess energy over and above that Zero figure you claim it takes to run it.  You most especially cannot construct one that has 50 kW "net" output, with no input, that runs along happily and quietly so as not to disturb the choir practice over at TBC.... no matter how much money someone might be going to give you.

Again, it would be trivially simple to prove me wrong. Just show the tabletop selfrunning water pump. It doesn't even have to make any useful output, I will be happy to eat my  Heron's Fountain...er, chocolate Stetson based on seeing that. But it really should run longer than my self-running Heron's Fountain, to be fair, don't you think? So let's say four hours. Many of us have watched less interesting four hour live demonstrations on YouTube and Google Hangout. Set up your transparent selfpowered selfrunning tabletop waterpump and put a webcam on it, and let it drip....er, rip. 

But you and I both know that you won't be doing this, and we both know exactly why not.

By the way, did you happen to read, on the first page of this website, the "Welcome" banner? Here's what it says:
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