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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mondrasek

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 06, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
How about using galinstan and kerosene?

I assumed galinstan would be much more costly and probably have a high viscosity.  Plus it didn't come up in my searches.  They were not extensive.

Kerosene is interesting.  Is it safer than Pentane?  Any idea on the least dense liquid that is non-toxic, and non-flammable?

TinselKoala

Quote from: mondrasek on March 06, 2014, 11:53:03 AM
I assumed galinstan would be much more costly and probably have a high viscosity.  Plus it didn't come up in my searches.  They were not extensive.

Kerosene is interesting.  Is it safer than Pentane?  Any idea on the least dense liquid that is non-toxic, and non-flammable?

You are making a _free energy_ machine. You could make it out of solid platinum and it would still pay off.

If only it worked, that is.

Kerosene is less volatile than pentane and more readily available. But see part one above: as long as it isn't made of unobtainium, the cost and availability of the materials for a _free energy machine_ may be neglected in the final accounting. You could use a light vegetable oil like soybean oil or canola oil.

Funny.... when I typed "galinstan viscosity" into the google search window I instantly found this:
0.0024 Pa-s (at 20 C)
Mineral oils are typically 0.02 to 0.05 Pa-s
Water is of course around 0.001 Pa-s

If I got the decimals in the right places, that is.

Galinstan's density is 6.44 g/cm3 (at 20 C).

MarkE

Quote from: mondrasek on March 06, 2014, 11:43:23 AM
Incorrect.  It is the case I explained and that you address below.

There is no need to be concerned with where the exiting Energy goes off to once it is properly calculated as leaving the system.  The water could "fall off a cliff" or sit on top of an infinitely large surface.  It does not matter.  The only thing that matters is that this method allows for a correct calculation of the Energy that leaves the system during the transition from State 2 to State 3.
See the updated post above. You still lose more than 30%.

minnie




   Hi,
       I tried with a bit of light oil over water and it's ok if you don't get any revs up.
   Once you try and increase the rate of doing work of course you just emulsion.
    When you put oil over water in your ZED you get a totally different beast than
    when it's got air over water.
                                        John.

mondrasek

Quote from: MarkE on March 06, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
See the updated post above. You still lose more than 30%.

Sorry MarkE, could you tell me which post has been updated?