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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MileHigh

Ha ha....  I caught it just before you posted that.

That calls for a musical interlude.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6FZwVvS8_8

mondrasek

Quote from: MileHigh on March 29, 2014, 06:56:40 PM
Ha ha....  I caught it just before you posted that.

And that is understandable.  It was a simple typo.  Not a "name call" or anything malicious.

And so I absolutely give you credit for correcting that inadvertent error.

I have made many (often sited) errors myself.

So... What's up?  How ya doing?

M.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 29, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
Indeed MH, but why?

Why waste what does not need to be wasted, sure there are loses but why not use what you have for work instead of letting it get turned into heat?
A clever design avoids losses as much as possible.  That is only possible by either blind luck or when the designer understands the issues in the first place.  People who value efficiency and know what they are doing do not for example build charge pump based power converters where the receiving capacitor is allowed to run down significantly.  Yet transferring fluid from one full volume to an empty volume is a direct analogue.
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I "could" drive my car with flat tires, does that make sense to you?
That would be about as useful as any of the HER contraptions, perhaps even more useful.
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There are some cases where you need to loose that energy, a crash barrier, a resistive voltage divider and such, where the loss serves a purpose, but if it does not, then use it for work instead.
Wanting and doing are distinct.
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The work in can, and does, equal the work out.
For a brick yes.  For a ZED no.

TinselKoala

I see honest Wayne Travis is still having his identity crisis. I wonder why he thinks it is so important to spout the same old same old BS over and over again to the same person he thinks is hiding behind all the various names of his critics here.

After all, he has already admitted that he cannot show me, or us, what we need to see. And of course what we "need to see" is the proof of his claims. But the Laws of God and Man are preventing him from showing us... or even attaining for himself what we "need to see".

TinselKoala

Quote from: webby1 on March 29, 2014, 09:05:03 PM
MarkE,

You are fixated on transferring fluid from one vessel into another.  You have been informed many times that the fluid itself does not transfer, only the work done by the fluid falling.
And yet we have diagrams and the "Flow assist" terminology.

Fluid flows out of one Zed into a bag, and at the same time fluid flows out of the other bag into the other Zed. This is different, somehow, from fluid being transferred from one vessel into another? Interesting semantic games you play, Webby. May we know all the rules, or are they secret too?

"Equalization is required to reset the ZED after the stroke is completed."
What does that mean, in English?