Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

Gee that is scientific of you Troll...
Attack the person, insult the person, -- oh wait ---- that is what Trolls do....

LOL.  TinselKoala called your bafflegab for what it is.  And you attacked him personally.  One can't make this stuff up.

[mrwayne]

If this is your operating principle then you should have come to the conclusion by now that rather than have a complicated system of layered cylinders that you could replace all that with a spring loaded float that changed volume. The spring would mean its buoyancy could fluctuate between two  values while loosing very little energy in the process.

The effect would be identical to couple of ZEDs and would achieve the same result with fewer losses caused by water flow.

It still would not be a net energy producer either, but that is another discussion.

Actually a spring is a good discussion point - because you can not do our operation with a spring - and maybe that will bring some insight.
One of the Anomalies that Mark E refused to admit - was that our compression process makes the spring taller ---- which is how the external neutral load is lifted freely.
The spring being taller means it does not expand back to its point of origin - it shrinks while giving up its compression...to the start point.
No configuration of a mechanical spring allows for compression during extension and neutral effect of the load lifting.
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A steel spring requires distance to compress and additional distance to lift the load (a distance).
The resulting compression is stored energy and additional work is required to lit the load..
Thanks

Wayne

[mrwayne]

There is no anomaly with the ZED.  There is ordinary 2000 year old hydrostatics.

Our system can be thematically proven with simple and understood physics...
Thanks

[MarkE]

Actually a spring is a good discussion point - because you can not do our operation with a spring - and maybe that will bring some insight.
One of the Anomalies that Mark E refused to admit - was that our compression process makes the spring taller ---- which is how the external neutral load is lifted freely.

There is no such anomaly in your system.   Compression force applied to the nested Russian dolls of ignorance pushes the risers down.  Try again.

The spring being taller means it does not expand back to its point of origin - it shrinks while giving up its compression...to the start point.

That is complete and utter nonsense.

No configuration of a mechanical spring allows for compression during extension and neutral effect of the load lifting.

Which is not a problem because what you describe doesn't happen in your contraptions either.

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A steel spring requires distance to compress and additional distance to lift the load (a distance).

No.  You had better go back to the hardware store and find some springs so that you might learn how they behave.

The resulting compression is stored energy and additional work is required to lit the load..
Thanks

Wayne

It is amazing what BS tripe you write.

[MarkE]

Our system can be thematically proven with simple and understood physics...
Thanks

Unfortunately for you:  Your claims have been disproven with simple, long understood physics.