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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 13, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
Every time you try to claim our system is colossal - I laugh - who are you trying to convince - maybe new readers....or what --- You and I have discussed this over and over....
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Just in case -
Do you remember the Anomaly that MarkE refused to answer - after he claimed non exists in our system....
We have more buoyancy lift than is physically displaced' ...........HINT: That concentrates the foot print.........
Well thanks for bringing it up again.....
p.s. MarkE spread sheets show that too.......
Thanks for helping...
The spreadsheets show that the useless ZED is easily and completely replaced with a compression spring far less than 1/1000th the volume.  So much for "concentrates the foot print" Mr. Fraud.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 13, 2014, 08:27:55 PM
Three mistakes you make -

It is my invention[/b]bull shit - not yours - I will use termsbafflegab that I feel fit the description helps sell my lies.
You do not get it at all.... and that's Ok - why waste your time here?
MH gets it all too well.  You aretrying to sell lies.  You are a fraud.
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Third - your pathetic attempts to insult me out of relevance did not work with any of the hands on members.....You are wasting your time.
Sure tell that story.  If MH were irrelevant you could simply ignore him.  Instead you flood this thread with your repeated lies.
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Now.....
When you explain why we can not reuse the input in a ZED - In scientific terms - I will show you "again" how we do...
Good day
Stop the diversions - games and insults...
Says the fraud: Wayne Travis.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 13, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
I am not sure you are talking about the same thing ...... how is reuse - creating or destroying energy?
I know what you intended - If the reuse results in more energy than the original - it must be created energy....
I want you to think on that a bit - reused energy ... assumes it was used in the first place correct?
But it does not say that it was consumed....If we consumed the internal pressure - The law of creation / destruction would apply.
As with our first ZED system - we transferred the same displacement left and right - between two ZEDs as many times as we liked - it was never consumed.
LOL

MarkE

Let's decode this Wayne speak:
Quote from: mrwayne on April 13, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Does the law say that a "external energy" must be accounted for by energy input into a separate system?
I know this is tricky - not meant to be... but if a boat is floating in the pool - does it take more or less energy to add water to the pool?
Energy must be added.  Does the fraud Wayne Travis think differently?
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To jump you ahead a bit - the ratio of water put in to the value of the buoyancy/ mass of the boat make a huge difference to the results of the next proper question:
Does it take more energy in the water to lift the boat and then extract the energy when the pool is drained.....Depends --- how much energy went into raising the water versus the mass value of the boat....
Nonsensical bafflegab.  An intelligible question might be:  Which requires less energy:  A. Lifting a boat with a winch, or B. Lifting a boat by filling up an enclosing container with water?  I'll give you a hint.  A. lifts the boat.  B. lifts the boat and the excess water around the boat.
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The discovery of the layered system spanks that answer pretty well.
Archimede's Paradox has been known for 2000 years.  It reduces the disadvantage of B. versus A.  B. still remains at a disadvantage.
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The ZED layers hooked in series invented a method to raise the water level extremely cheap..
Here the fraud Wayne Travis suggests that the layering scheme offers free energy.  It doesn't.
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And hooking two together - meant we could reused that water head from one pool to another...
If this is too much... let me know.
Hooking one to another compounds the losses of one process with the losses of another.
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Another point - the ratio - that is so important is improved by not dropping the boat/mass to far.
Not moving the boat at all is your best bet.  That's as close as you will get to an ordinary winch.  It is all downhill from there.

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 13, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
I think you should understand this by now...but if you don't..
You just have to lift cheaper than the output..... Hint "Ratio" input volume and pressure to lift....reduces as you add layers.....
I know - that goes against the belief that hooking systems together only adds input --- but not when the serpentine effect reduces the volume of displacement and increases the pressure faster.....
Catch that "layers of buoyancy" as in the ZED reduce Volume and increase the speed to pressure exponentially....
Which means the ratio of pressure times surface area is spanked
When you can do an up cheaper than the value Down----- the conservative idea needs adjusted..
Just saying.....Super conservative....
Ah the fraud Wayne Travis spews more useless bafflegab, including Wayne's recently coined meaningless term:  "super conservative".