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Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2

Started by Floor, February 17, 2014, 01:53:56 PM

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Dog-One

Good little demonstration of how the "fields" must wrap around in order for like poles to stick together at their so-called Bloch Wall.

Quite revealing.  Thanks for posting that clip.

Floor

@ConradElectro

QUOTE FROM Conradelektro
"Your new machine is a very nice contraption and the
experiment is very interesting. I find it interesting because
it demonstrates a measuring problem: " END QUOTE

Agreement, yes an interesting problem.

The original "TD" measuring device was too crude to
facilitated any meaningful friction measurements.

Measurements made for the SL will be made to approach equilibrium from
both directions of the sliding motion to test if equilibrium of the forces has truly been
found..  Details of this process will be given with those measurements.

The new unit will be vibrated to facilitate the rapid arriving at the
equilibrium of forces, as was the original TD unit.  I  believe that
adding vibration is a valid method of eliminating the friction under
the measurement conditions. 

Realistic simulation of both, the RO friction-conditions and friction
might be be arrived at by a complicated process.   With the magnets removed
and incremental  weights / counterweights installed (each weight = 1/2 total
weight for that increment). Then a third weight on the same pulley to measure the
friction. Or something like that...  This could establish a basis for validating or
invalidating  the vibrating method.  Don't know though ?

Measurements of the state of the forces at the beginning of each set, and  measurements
of the friction  (magnets not in place) and others will be made as the process unfolds.

Let me contemplate your other suggestions / ideas until later.

                As usual thank you for your observations.

                                  best wishes
                                    Floor

Floor

@Lumen

Yes I see it (video).  Reshaping in the external field.
This is in align with and as a first part of the exploration.

On another side of the exploration or additionally...
Does it require more energy to reorient or partially reorient
the domains (internal)  then energy that could be gained from
that reorientation, under all conditions.

Some parameters / details in photo form, below.

                           floor

Floor

correction

In the top paragraph in the "NewParam3.png" photo,
It should read  Ro weight string is in place,  rather than
"SL string is in place"


                         floor  floor

Floor

NewTDparameters 2.

The SL rails are inclined upwardly toward the RO magnet, by some
where between 0.5 and 0.75 degrees during the following  practice
run, device calibration and testing (NewParam6.PNG photo).  This
as to reliably insure that the SL rails were not inclined in the other direction.

70 mm of string (0.5grams) hang below, both the RO and the SL pulleys,
when their respective scales read at 45 degrees (NewParam5.PNG photo).

The weight of the figure of 8 knots (0.016 grams), which keeps the RO
and SL strings from slipping through the 1/16 inch diameter holes in the
pulleys are negated. 

The SL scale counter weight, weighs 4.425 grams. The weight of the fine
thread by which it is suspended in negated (NewParam5.PNG photo).

With the SL magnet replaced with a non magnetic dummy weight
(NewParam7.PNG photo), it requires 8.425 grams on the SL weight string
to cause the SL sledge to reliably move toward the RO magnet (with vibration).

The 8.425 grams (SL weight ) minus the 4.425 grams (SL scale counter weight)
is equal to 4 grams.  Adding the weight of the SL weight string (0.5grams)
brings the total weight required to cause SL's sliding (with vibration) toward
RO, to 4.5 grams.

It required 4.425grams less weight, upon the SL string in the absence of
the SL scale counter weight.

In the absence of the 8.425 grams of weight upon the SL weight string, the
SL sledge moves away from the RO magnet (with vibration).

It requires less than 4.5 grams to motivate the SL sledge when the
sledge is level.

Other test are to follow.

                        floor