VORTEX COIL FRAMES/FORMERS FOR SALE ...

[Farmhand]

listen dude im not ur PA....if you want find out more go ask a question and see what comes of it ..............
their are few people in their that will show u what ur asking ..i am not going to start posting their threads just because you can not be bothered to do a little searching...i look forward to seeing ur post in their if you decide you want to question the members doing tests and actually own a coil or even make a coil regualr on a 1-1 ratio and show us it producing hi voltage  !!!

last reply cba with you now....

Give me a few days and a winding diagram of the vortex coil and I'll see if I can make a regular coil do a similar thing.

Question) Are the cols wound 1:1 as in two same length wires wound side by side  for the entire length of the wires ?

Meaning does the secondary and primary never part from side by side for the entire winding length ?

Cheers

[Electronix Hive]

Hi farmhand

when i say 1-1 i mean same length, same guage same number of turns...in regards to the wire
dont think of it as a transformer where the wire gauge or turns ration is different.
as for schematic no one has rly made one i guess u can watch daniels video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiGH4zRsO0U....
this shows how to make the coil. ull see it just using 24 awg 24 strands twisted together then wound round in a torus shape

[MileHigh]

Electronix Hive:

I will give you a pointer about resonance and I know I read similar comments to yours on the Nunez forum.  When you sweep frequencies and hit a resonance point you typically will see a greatly increased amplitude on your scope.  That is not "gain" the way you and most of the people on the forum think.  (I also watched a few of the associated YouTube clips.)  When you hit resonance what's happening is that the circuit is absorbing the energy from the signal source cycle by cycle until the resonating is at a very high amplitude.  So it represents the storage or accumulation of energy that comes from your signal generator being stored in the resonant components of the circuit.  The amplitude builds up to the point where the energy being burned off in the resonant components is equal to the energy being supplied by the signal generator.

So, most if not all of the people on the other forum believe that they are seeing an energy gain when you hit resonance.  It's not the case.  Think of a wine glass that resonates to the point that it breaks.  The same thing is happening, the glass is accumulating the sound energy.  If it vibrates but doesn't break then there are two things going on in the wine glass, 1) it is resonating at a high amplitude where the high amplitude is there because of the accumulation and storage of a bunch of cycles of sound energy, and 2) sitting on top of the high amplitude resonance is the continuous burning off of new sound energy coming in from the outside such that the input sound energy is equal to the amount of energy burned off.

So what appears as "gain" is just a mirage, it's just the storage of multiple chunks of energy supplied by the signal source.  For the wine glass it's the singer's voice, for the vortex coil circuit it's the signal generator.

What you have is a situation where beginning experimenters confuse energy storage in a resonating circuit with gain, when in fact there is no true gain.  The moral of the story is that if you are serious, you will want to learn electronics from the ground up.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Electronix Hive:

You copy my posting about resonance to the Nunez forum and you title it, "The Haters in overunity forum.....LOL."

Now you tell me, where is the "hate" in giving you a basic explanation for resonance?

I have to assume that you "know" what resonance is and when you see a higher amplitude sine wave on your scope that you are "sure" that you are seeing a gain.  There was a similar thing recently with respect to pulse motor pick-up coils being operated at resonance.

At the same time, you must have a feeling inside that I know what I am talking about.....

MileHigh

P.S.:  Woops!  Now the posting is gone.  My turn to LOL.

[Electronix Hive]

what post u nar nar lol......
i was going to say it sounded a fair pint but don't explain what happening with the voltage rly
like i said im just a designer rly not experienced electrical engineer......
but yeah that might be a good idea to post it in the forum since ur not going to ask people who can give u a run for ur money......so to speak

who knows most might agree with you.....u have to stop asking me like i have all the answers as i have requested like 4 times now.......geez