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Inductive Pulse Switch.

Started by Tradie, February 18, 2014, 05:26:13 PM

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Tradie

Hello,
Im having issues with my latest experiment and I have not been able to get any help or advice in which direction to go.
I have been pulsing current through an inductor and out again to a load at between 2000 and 4000hz.
Through basic testing I have calculated that minus the losses through the primary circuit I am achieving a peak of 184% more energy through to a secondary circuit than the initial input.
Even if i dont count the initial losses of the prime mover, I am achieving a peak of 123% output versus input.
Attached is a PDF of some results.
The strange thing about this switch is that the current has to flow through 6 ohms of coils, 4 individual carbon brushes and it still puts out more voltage than it puts in. The losses through the above mentioned and serious sparking should bring efficiency well below 50%.

Some older videos showing the switch.
http://youtu.be/UeiO4JCC1Lk
http://youtu.be/a0KpRymlC0o
http://youtu.be/JoavKWYE0-E
http://youtu.be/EnwkXiSQW6U

Im at a bit of a loss as to how im getting these results and how to move forward.
If any techies could have a look and suggest some options?

Thanks,
Tradie.

Floor

What Kind of a "meter" is it,  in your schematic ?  Volt, Amp, Watt ?

Smooth, steady, DC,  Electric  POWER = simply Amps x volts. 

However  Voltage <> power, and  Amperage <> power

Even rectified DC has a pulse (Half wave)  or ripple (full wave),

Either way, the voltage, doesn't measure correctly / with total accuracy,  with a DC volt meter unless the current and voltage are
smooth / steady,  that is to say, with out much of a wave component within the current

Amperage and power meters (Depending upon their design type) are affected by the "form" of the electricity as well.

                                                I hope this was helpful

                                        Happy experimentation

                                                        floor

Tradie

Measurements were taken with a Fluke Process meter and a Cabac T9000 tong.
Attached PDF highlights actual measurements taken during live testing.
Voltages were taken at the same time with different meters then cross referenced with each other to a known source.
Both meters were within .1V of each other.

Rectified AC with Full wave bridge and capacitor cleans up the ripples and in my opinion would not swing results to this extent.
I've tried inline ammeters, however I get totally different results again.
The inline ammeters drop the secondary voltage for no apparent reason.

I've been a sparky for a decade and I have seen plenty of floating voltages, but these all disappear under load.
Some of the loads are 1000W yet the Secondary voltage is still above the primary by a long way.

I agree with the intermittent DC comment but this still doesn't explain the voltage spikes under constant load.
I have no doubt that the secondary wave form is dirty as hell, but that's the entire point of the machine.
I'm measuring AC/DC voltages and currents through the secondary even when it travels through the bridge.
Using standard ohms law is one way to look at these results but i'm wondering if there is a better, clearer way.


Floor

cool

I've watched experimenter after experimenter, struggle with essentially the
same kind of measurement questions arising, here on the forum. 

The only suggestion I have heard proposed, and that I see as a reasonable and direct
approach to the problem, is temperature measurement.

If there is real world anomalous power present  in your "resistive load 4 x 100 watts"
Then it will show as "brute force"  temp change in that load.

You will need thermal insulation of your load and an ambient temperature measurement, for comparison.

                       cheers
                       floor

tim123

Hi Tradie,
  It sounds interesting, but I'm not sure i understand...

- In your schematic, what exactly is the thing with 2 sets of brushes?
- What does it mean by '2nd set as close a possible'?
- What's an 'inductive pulse switch'?
- And the obvious question - if it puts out more than it consumes - can't you just loop it - to power itself?

:)
Regards, Tim