Auroratek self sustainable technologies Overunity to market in Arizona USA

[MileHigh]

And what were the results of the Savic device in a nutshell?

If you called Bill and acted like a gentlemen [any of you] he would probably offer you the same access he offered Me.

The problem is that you are not dealing with a gentleman yourself.  Attempting to sell junk fantasies to gullible people is not being a gentleman at all.

I am being real and taking Bill at face value in his clips and his presentation.  That's all I have to say for now.  I am looking forward to seeing the results of your engagement with Bill Alek.  If you act mostly opaque about what transpires then I have to assume that you discovered the whole thing was BS.

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

Another one of his 'Old' builds of the SmartPak below.   Would you go full on PCB with a build like this if it didn't test out showing a COP > 1 ?

There are tests, and there are tests. And then there are interpretations of test data. Where is the _raw test data_ that was used to support the COP>1 claim made for that apparatus? I would like to review it.

Have you been following the QEG saga? James Robitaille and his stepdaughter have talked groups all over the world into spending thousands of dollars on a big heavy "generator" based on testing that was, by JR's own admission, not thorough and not indicating _actual_ overunity performance... even though the stepdaughter proceeded to ask for and get over a hundred thousand dollars in donations by claiming it was already proven to work. And the donations and "testing" are still rolling along, yet all of their _own_ published data indicates miserable efficiencies of under 50 percent. Yet they claimed as much as 33x OU. And the bottom is beginning to fall out of that story, as lots of people are beginning to realize they have been taken for a ride.

So yes, I believe that there are many people who would go "full on" with a PCB, based on faulty measurements or interpretations. After all, if you have the money, it's trivial to lay out a circuit in simulation, generate a PCB pattern and send it off for manufacturing. In a week you have your prototype boards in hand, and it sure beats sticking all those little parts into a breadboard and connecting them with clipleads. You will never attract the Big Fish with a breadboard!
Would I do it myself? Sure, I've been known to make simple PC boards to facilitate testing and demonstration of claimed OU devices.

In fact... there is a little sub-discussion happening right now in another thread about one of my devices that easily produces measurements that indicate ridiculously large "overunity" output values, and I did make a PCB for one model of that circuit. Would you like to invest in my system? Or would you like to learn just how and why the measurements aren't actually indicating any overunity performance? How is your attitude towards me different from your attitude towards Bill Alek, and why? Think about it.

[tinman]

Well i for one are greatful of Chet for bringing to our attention new devices that pop up. And unlike Sterling,Chet dose not stand to profit from any of this-so thanks Chet.

But i must also say that there are far to many scamers out there today,that can pull the wool over unsuspecting eye's. I showed not long ago,how easy it is to get people to believe that you have something fantastic-simply by changing the numerical value of a cap. Some people didnt care to much for what i did,but most understood as to why i did it(in the hight of the Akula rush)-and i will do it again,although with a little more warning first.

Chet-as always,i am happy to fork out cash to get to the truth-can i buy one of these devices above?- a complete,ready to go machine.I know it will be a waste of money,but hey, maybe i can use it as a battery charger after testing.

[ramset]

Brad
Thanks for the explanation of my Intent,I just look for the truth... and when a man or woman invites me to his House to bring qualified persons to test his technology...


Well,  the discussion here should  be about "how can we help" not 5 pages of unrelated [to the task] nonsense .
I think it has something to do with Pride and Ego ...


something like "Look at me and how smart I am ... That guys an idiot He's nowhere near as gifted as I am why would I waste my time with that crap...


I'm too busy showing the other guys here how stupid The QYZ guys are to give you help
in a real life, real time test of an OU claim....
We're  way too busy fighting this "shadow battle" all over make believe land ....


I will ask again
Once I get the Details of the Claim on this Transformer ,
would Mark E ,Tinsel Or MH agree upon a Test protocol ...


I only do this because I don't like Monday morning Quarter backs.
and I think it would be a good thing for this... Errr Community.
thx
ChetKremens@gmail.com


PS
Brad [TinMan] if this works as advertised and passes the Rigor of these fellows
you'll have to get on line to buy one....[although _their_ rigor is not required here]


And for clarity this entire endeavor is not for profit or gain or "free stuff"


absolutely nothing in return .... [except a copy of the report]


For additional Clarity PLEASE no condescending advice or Alternative suggestions ..
just a test protocol that you three would be happy with.

ONCE I GET THE DETAILS ,,NOT BEFORE !!

[mscoffman]

Well i for one are greatful of Chet for bringing to our attention new devices that pop up. And unlike Sterling,Chet dose not stand to profit from any of this-so thanks Chet.

But i must also say that there are far to many scamers out there today,that can pull the wool over unsuspecting eye's. I showed not long ago,how easy it is to get people to believe that you have something fantastic-simply by changing the numerical value of a cap. Some people didnt care to much for what i did,but most understood as to why i did it(in the hight of the Akula rush)-and i will do it again,although with a little more warning first.

Chet-as always,i am happy to fork out cash to get to the truth-can i buy one of these devices above?- a complete,ready to go machine.I know it will be a waste of money,but hey, maybe i can use it as a battery charger after testing.

The thing that I see is that this is the first "reasonable" device that I've seen that if shipped in any kind of reasonable timeframe,
would make validation pretty much of a sure thing. It's one thing if the device shows reasonable behavior in Auroratek labs, it's
another if it shows reasonable behavior in your own.

If its an energy source with a battery to get it started, and a charger to keep an acid/lead battery from dying prematurely,
I would be a satisfied customers. Micro controlled battery chargers can get quite sophisticated these days, but the main item is
to stop charging the battery when the voltage gets to the charge termination voltage, and to start charging if it is not. I think
any kind of battery charger would prove that Bill can throttle his energy source to change it's output level rather then do a dump
load resistive energy dump.

Also it looks like Bill and Aurora are kind of doing this on the side, I doubt that they will be unveiling all these devices at the same
time. I frankly would much rather skip any "word salad theory" and being forced to pay homage to "theories unknown" but simply
gain access to a reasonable energy source. I'd much rather have Bill say when asked how it works; "Well, that's proprietary information".
Don't talk about it...ship it!  As long as it doesn't end up creating miniature black-holes, I think most people are much less interested
in accessing other dimensions and having antigravity under their belts as they are in having free energy.

:S:MarkSCoffman