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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Thanks!

While I posted the video mostly for entertainment purposes, there are a few important points associated with it as well.

First and foremost: If someone ever actually does achieve not just "resonance" but VRSWR... that is, Voltage Rise by Standing Wave Resonance .... the whole point of seeking "resonance" IMHO .... in a system with 2kV in the "primary" circuit, they had better watch out. There is no insulation other than distance that will protect your equipment and your person from instant destruction when that true VRSWR point is reached in a tuned set of coils with a quarter-wave secondary resonator. The QEG people are saved from this -- so far at least -- by several things: First, any truly high voltages will instantly short out by arcing, as they have already discovered to their cost even with only moderate voltages, due to their naive HV component and wiring layout. Second, they have a saturable core reactor. When the core saturates from high currents in the windings no further increase in output power can be attained no matter what happens on the input side. The vacuum (or air) cores in a Tesla resonant system do not saturate.

Next: Real "Tesla Systems" are deceptive in their simplicity. It might look like a bunch of scavenged hardware junk bolted and glued together but there are actually some very sophisticated design and construction principles in play. One of my original purposes in constructing that particular coil was to illustrate how important the Spark Gap construction and performance is to a Tesla VRSWR system. Recalling our basic electromagnetic physics, we remember that the voltage induced in a secondary coil is proportional to the rate of change of the current in the primary coil. This translates into the practical requirement of fast rise and fall times of the primary's current: rapid onset and rapid quenching of the interruptor spark. The Spark Gap is very critical to success with this kind of system. Tesla spent a lot of time and thought on spark gaps and other circuit interruptors and I think this work is neglected these days. A simple 2-element adjustable gap "barely works" in a powerful system because a power arc forms and the gap doesn't strike or interrupt rapidly and winds up wasting a lot of power. This kind of gap can be made to work well, as I show in the video, by literally blowing the spark out with a powerful blast of compressed air. But you will literally never see a simple 2-element gap being used in a real fullblown SGTC. High-speed rotary gaps, multiple electrode gaps, and other types of gap will be used to attain the same result: sharp striking and as rapid quenching as possible. MileHigh, the Spark Gap is a sophisticated bit of kit and really is critical! And a couple of automotive spark plugs in a little plastic display case are just not going to provide the performance needed to attain real VRSWR in a resonant Tesla system.

Things like coil aspect ratio, adjustable magnetic coupling, primary tank inductance tuning, secondary flashover insulation, secondary terminal capacitance, Earth grounding, and even the local environment like distance from ground plane and other environmental factors... all are important for performance of a true Tesla VRSWR system like a traditional SGTC.

The QEG is not a Tesla coil, of course, in spite of the people invoking the "holy name" of Tesla and the "holy miracle" of Resonance. However many of the same design and operating principles must come into play.  I do not believe that their present construction and layout, as shown in the nice photo up above, will allow their system safely to reach the kinds of voltages they have been talking about, if at all, and they are likely to have some very expensive equipment failures along the way should they attempt to do so with their present layout.

ariovaldo

One more simple test:


http://youtu.be/20MhbKBjCmA




Improvements/changes made since my last run:


1) Installed 2 sparks plugs to protect the high voltage coils against  voltage surge that happened when the system starts to resonate.
2) Installed a capacitor bank in the low voltage coils


Results:
Input : 10.23 Amps X 66 Volts
Output : 2.53 amps X 97 Volts
Frequency = 235 Hz


Coils values:
A) High voltage coil ( 3100 turns of 20 awg wire)
33 Ohms
13 Henry without rotor
18 Henry with rotor




B) Low voltage coil ( 350 turns of 2X16 awg wire)
1.0 ohm
0.26 Henry without rotor
0.32 Henry with rotor


One thing that I noticed but I didn't mentioned in the video. " With the system running (235 Hz) I grabbed a neodymium magnetic and I felt a high vibration 3 feet away from the equipment.
I have made the same test in others equipment, like transformers, (big ones), big motors running in low and high speed using a VFD drives and I never noticed anything like that...
Cheers


Ariovaldo

hartiberlin

Hi Ariovaldo,

so you have 675 Watts input and
about 225 Watts output ?

Many thanks for reporting these tests,
so you are also still stuck on about 36 % Efficiency as well as
the last video with  Peak to Peak measurements in Morroco
has also shown about 36 % efficiency...

So better you try now the coil shorting method of Aviso-Konehead,
otherwise you will get stuck to this low efficiency.

You can just also easily try just to fastly open and close
the output current and collect BackEMF via a fast rectifier bridge in a load
capacitor.
Good luck !

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Pirate88179

Quote from: ariovaldo on May 26, 2014, 11:25:19 AM




One thing that I noticed but I didn't mentioned in the video. " With the system running (235 Hz) I grabbed a neodymium magnetic and I felt a high vibration 3 feet away from the equipment.
I have made the same test in others equipment, like transformers, (big ones), big motors running in low and high speed using a VFD drives and I never noticed anything like that...
Cheers


Ariovaldo

All of my Bedeni motors do that, especially the JohnnyDavro no bearing type.  I can hold a large 1" dia. neo 3 feet away (a little further and the effect goes away) and it is like and invisible hammer is hitting it.  Funny thing is that as fast as my rotors are turning (10,000-15,000 rpm) the "hammering" does not appear to correlate with the rotor rpm, it is much, much less.  It might be some % of rpm, I have never tested it.  It is a very weird sensation.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

ariovaldo

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 26, 2014, 02:20:28 PM
Hi Ariovaldo,

so you have 675 Watts input and
about 225 Watts output ?

Many thanks for reporting these tests,
so you are also still stuck on about 36 % Efficiency as well as
the last video with  Peak to Peak measurements in Morroco
has also shown about 36 % efficiency...

So better you try now the coil shorting method of Aviso-Konehead,
otherwise you will get stuck to this low efficiency.

You can just also easily try just to fastly open and close
the output current and collect BackEMF via a fast rectifier bridge in a load
capacitor.
Good luck !

Regards, Stefan.
Thanks for the tips...
I already have a mechanic switch to test. I just need some time to assemble it...