Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Angelic]

Thanks
Right now it works just as an experimental device. But 150 hr run time would be scary unless there were some really solid control points. Would you agree?

[MileHigh]

Ari,

Thank you for your measurements.

I remember our teacher explaining to us how in big electrical generating stations there are worries when they have to bring a rotor up to speed and get it on line.  For starters, the rotors are massive, thousands of tons.  So the mechanical rotational inertia is part and parcel of stabilizing the grid and keeping the line frequency close to 60 Hz.  The line frequency actually drifts very slowly above and below 60 Hz and they make sure that the net frequency averaged over a very long period of time is exactly 60 Hz.

The worries come from the process of bringing the massive rotors up to speed.  As they increase in speed they may pass through the resonant frequency of the power station building itself, as an example.  So there may be a "mini resonant earthquake" as the 5000-ton rotor passes though the mechanical resonant peak of the building.  When the rotor speed is past the resonant peak then things calm down and there is no more resonance to worry about when the rotor is at speed.

Naturally the more solidly built the QEG is the less you have to worry about these mechanical resonance points.  I give FTW credit for a pretty solid looking build but they lose points if they do indeed claim the rotor-stator gap in their recent build is 10 mils because it just doesn't feel right.

MileHigh

AS an addendum I note that your setup has 13 mils of clearance per side so I could be wrong.  I will get my "satisfaction" in the next posting where I discuss the electrical analysis.  lol

[MileHigh]

Okay here is the electrical rant, beware QEG teams!  lol

Going back to the electrical analysis of the QEG, let me touch on a Bedini motor as an example.  I am going to have to toot my own horn to make this point.  I have never built a Bedini motor, but several years ago I watched a bunch of Bedini motor clips.  A while back someone was giving me a hard time about "armchair vs. builder" and I made an estimate that I have about 3500 hours of direct experience on the bench.  Now that's not a lot in terms of a lifetime, but it's still nothing to sneeze at.  Another thing worth mentioning is that the last time I actually worked on a bench was about 1990, a generation ago.

Nonetheless, right now, today, if I had access to a bench with equipment, and a Bedini motor, I could do a better, more in-depth analysis of how one works then I have ever seen in six years of online Bedinidom.  I could explain exactly how it works to a level of depth and detail that has never been done before that I am aware of.  Bedini motor builders would be *shocked* if I produced 10 clips and associated lab reports.  I would analyze the thing inside-out and open whole new areas of discussion that have never even been touched upon.  I would generate analysis data that would blow some people's minds and I would crush a whole bunch of silly myths about Bedini motors that have been around seemingly forever.  I would explain how the coil actually works and what it does.  I would go into depth about all of the timing issues around the coil which are barely even discussed among Bedini enthusiasts.  I would optimize the implementation of the pickup coil and base resistor and discuss all of the timing issues there also, and discuss the trade-offs.  I would offer up a solution that is 10 times better than the crude pick-up coil driving a base resistor as an alternative.  Analyzing a Bedini motor setup would be close to child's play for me if I had the run of a lab.

So, we are talking about the QEG.  James is supposed to be an "electrical engineer" or an "engineering artist," depending on the day.  If James really is an engineer, how come he isn't doing to a QEG what I could do to a Bedini motor practically with my eyes closed?  Where are his timing diagrams?  Where is his analysis of the QEG and where is his leadership to guide the replicators?  Where is his detailed power-in vs. power-out analysis?  Where is his detailed timing diagram that includes the tracking of the rotor as it spins through two Pi radians?  WHERE IS IT?

I could do the same thing to the QEG that I could do with a Bedini motor.  So what are we waiting for?  We are supposed to be in the hands of a professional and if you believe Hope's hype, James is a bloody engineering god!

Well, as we look at the situation as it stands today, James and FTW come off as typical free energy proposition bluffers that don't demonstrate technical competence up to the level that has been pitched to the masses.  "Take everything that Hope says and divide by 10."  So far James appears to be an ordinary bench technician that got his name on some patents because he put thermocouples on some vacuum cleaner motors and put them into the temperature cycling oven and ran the software to record all of the datum points.

Make no mistake all of you QEG lurkers and especially the QEG builders - some people have convinced you to spend thousands of dollars of your own hard-earned money and to invest your precious time into this dubious free energy proposition, and you will be lucky if you get out of this with a lousy Fix the World t-shirt (that cost you $250 USD.)

The burden is on the shoulders of the people that promised you all of this "magic."  When they don't deliver you can look at that - "non-delivery, not working" - as being the truth.  Therefore the deduction is that the promisers were liars.  Not that they were misguided or overly optimistic or that they have good hearts but were unsuccessful - they are liars.  The full Internet paper trail is there, and I assume that the Internet Wayback Machine has already gobbled it all up.

MileHigh

P.S.:  I certainly don't consider myself to be an electronics expert.  There are people around here and people that I have met in real life that make me look quite lousy.

[MileHigh]

I have a sobering follow-up to my rant.

How come John Rohner never measured the average power in vs. the average power out from his "pap engine?"

(In my generation as kids we played with "pop guns."  The pap "engine" is just a form of glorified pop gun.)

How come John's arch rival, Bob Rohner, as of my last check about a year ago had never measured the average power-in vs. power-out for his version of a pap "engine."  He claims that he is a mechanical guy and he doesn't know how.

How come James Kwok refused an offer to go forward and actually do an installation of his "water gravity generator?"

How come in all of John Bedini's conferences and DVDs he has never explained how a coil actually works to his followers?

How come Rossi never generated unambiguous, definitive data?

How come the QEG has not been properly analyzed and proper data presented to the QEG enthusiasts?



The answers, my friends, are blowing in the aether.  They will remain blowing in the aether for the foreseeable future.

The reason for this is that they don't want to present credible, good data because that would show they have nothing, it would stop them in their tracks cold and stop the money flow.

It's all disgusting when you really think about it.  It's the dark side of the "Fix the World" pantomime dance.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

I have a sobering follow-up to my rant.

How come John Rohner never measured the average power in vs. the average power out from his "pap engine?"

John Rohner never made an engine run that produced any output power.  He did a couple of times use a starter motor to spin some or most of the guts.  But that was never able to drive a loaded generator.

(In my generation as kids we played with "pop guns."  The pap "engine" is just a form of glorified pop gun.)

That's right.  But because Papp put on a clever display some people think that there s more to it than that.

How come John's arch rival, Bob Rohner, as of my last check about a year ago had never measured the average power-in vs. power-out for his version of a pap "engine."  He claims that he is a mechanical guy and he doesn't know how.

No, Bob Rohner is cagier than that.  He says that he will not disclose measurements because that is trade secret information that he protects for the benefit of his investors.  He promised almost two years ago that in the following spring (2013) when the cold winter was over he would take and publish measurements.  He instead did a demo that appears to be a complete fake, see Gary Wright's excellent work-up for details.

How come James Kwok refused an offer to go forward and actually do an installation of his "water gravity generator?"

I know why and you know why.  Find the audio clip of his phone message to Sterling Allan.  It's hilarious.[quopte]

How come in all of John Bedini's conferences and DVDs he has never explained how a coil actually works to his followers?[/quote]Bedini has been scamming as long as Goldes.

How come Rossi never generated unambiguous, definitive data?

Because rivals and snake clowns are everywhere trying to steal his fully robotic million unit per year factory.

How come the QEG has not been properly analyzed and proper data presented to the QEG enthusiasts?

They are yet another group of free energy grifters.

The answers, my friends, are blowing in the aether.  They will remain blowing in the aether for the foreseeable future.

The reason for this is that they don't want to present credible, good data because that would show they have nothing, it would stop them in their tracks cold and stop the money flow.

It's all disgusting when you really think about it.  It's the dark side of the "Fix the World" pantomime dance.

MileHigh

Steorn did a similar thing:  Appeal to charity while robbing investors blind.