Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Void]

What circuit, the output circuit ?    You're argument is circular and you are failing to consider properly what I am saying.
My "arrangement" is a set of circuits, it's an AC generator and a load, but I can make it an AC generator then a transformer
then a load and that will show why the reactive power claims are BS.

A circuit can be defined by a current loop ?
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If I just measure the input and output to a transformer connected to the grid I'm only measuring one part of a larger circuit.

Gee wizz.

You are not making any sense man. 
Of course it all depends on what you want to measure.
As long as you are measuring correctly then you should have correct results.
For overunity devices we only really need to measure power input to the device,
and power dissipated by the load. It is of no concern at all what the power
company is doing or what their costs are, for such measurement purposes. For the most part, we
can make a device that looks reactive at its input appear non-reactive using power factor correction components,
so we don't have to worry about any effects on the line.

If I want to buy the most efficient vacuum cleaner for a given power level, I just need
to know what the efficiency is of the different comparable power vacuum cleaners. The one that
consumes less power for about the same performance is the one that is more efficient.
If one vacuum cleaner has a lower power factor than another, this can be corrected
with some power factor correction components if a person really wanted, but it makes no difference
whatsoever on the efficiency and actual performance of the vacuum cleaners. The true efficiency of
the devices is all that really matters to the consumer. Saying that one introduces a bit more
losses in the power lines or requires more generator capacity than the other due to differences in
power factor is not any concern at all in regards to the efficiency of the vacuum cleaners. I won't
repeat myself further, but it looks to me like you are chasing windmills. 

All the best...

[TinselKoala]

@Farmhand: Sorry, I've been busy making huge OU in VARs with TKoilVII. The phase question: If you recall my microQEG videos, I at first also got a phase angle that looked like 180 out of phase. This can be due to a lot of things, mostly inverted probes or scope channels, and also if a current transformer is used. If your true phase angle is 90 degrees and you use a current transformer like a Rogowski coil or a plain loop, this will introduce a 90 degree phase shift in the _measurement_ itself. Voila: your scope displays a signal that looks like it is 180 oop, when it is really reading a 90 degree oop signal. I did try to demonstrate this in the first uQEG and the Phase 1 and Phase 2 videos but perhaps I wasn't completely clear.

You are doing awesome work, by the way. Mucho gusto!.

[Farmhand]

Well when I get an appropriate CSR and ensure no ground loops then if I get this shot below I can claim OU ?
That's 3.8 Watts input and 5.1 Watts out.  If we use the scope measurements and calculate.
When I get the proper CSR we or I will determine the phase to verify with the scope display.

Don't ask me to explain where the extra energy comes from if it does still show more real power out than in.   
I'll let you do that if you want.
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Input 12.4 V x 0.3 A = 3.72 Watts
I figure it like this.
(200 cosine = -0.987 PF)
84.6 volts x 0.987 A = 83.5 VA
83.5 VA x 0.987 = 78.4 VAR
83.5 VA - 78.4 VAR = 5.1 Watts
5.1 Watts output / 3.72 Watts input = 1.37 C.O.P
..
I think I did better with the filament light bulb and the previous setup not sure.
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[Farmhand]

@Farmhand: Sorry, I've been busy making huge OU in VARs with TKoilVII. The phase question: If you recall my microQEG videos, I at first also got a phase angle that looked like 180 out of phase. This can be due to a lot of things, mostly inverted probes or scope channels, and also if a current transformer is used. If your true phase angle is 90 degrees and you use a current transformer like a Rogowski coil or a plain loop, this will introduce a 90 degree phase shift in the _measurement_ itself. Voila: your scope displays a signal that looks like it is 180 oop, when it is really reading a 90 degree oop signal. I did try to demonstrate this in the first uQEG and the Phase 1 and Phase 2 videos but perhaps I wasn't completely clear.

You are doing awesome work, by the way. Mucho gusto!.

Oh OK I see now, I did miss that part of what you explained and showed. That does make perfect sense, and I do believe I
will get the correct result if I do the measurement correctly in order to show the reality of the situation.

Thanks very much.

[Void]

Farmhand, certain types of loads can be tricky to measure power consumption on.
I have also seen some strange phase shift effects when trying to measure input and output power
using different kinds of odd transformer windings and that sort of thing, and with different kinds of loads.
When I run into that situation I try to see if there is another way to approach the measurements
such as say converting the output to DC or something else.  There is not always an easy solution.

Off hand I don't know what the best solution is for the load you are trying to measure.  I think it
is a fluorescent tube? Maybe a fluorescent tube introduces a lot of phase shift on the current, I don't know,
but once you get your non inductive CSR's we can see what kind of waveforms you are left with. It may
take further analysis and testing to get a better idea what is happening there if you don't just
have a probe reversed or whatever.