Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Farmhand]

Quote from: MileHigh on September 14, 2014, 06:14:50 AM

    And of course we can't forget that the entire thing is just a con job masquerading as a fantasy about helping poor people and in a broader sense revolutionizing the world.  In that context, no CICU will ever sell a working QEG to a customer, EVER.

    Another comedic aspect of this whole farce is that if a fantasy hypothetical QEG was supposed to output the equivalent of mains power, it would have to be UL and CE certified.  Certainly Jamie knows this, he worked for an electrical appliance manufacturer.  Yet HopeGirl has never mentioned it once.

    I have a dream.

    The dream is to one day post mug shots of HopeGirl, Jamie, and Val.

In the link you posted there is reference to a video that I do not recall seeing. But this guy did make the following observations from the video

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    In this video, they're using a transformer to "filter out" the reactive power, force the voltage and current into phase, and somehow convert reactive into real power. (Actually, they've apparently connected some sort of resistive load to the transformer, for which you expect voltage and current to be in phase, but never mind.)[/size]Thing is, they're connecting to the 3100 turn side of the machine, which is the one that contains the capacitors. And indeed, when they initially scope the leads on that side, it looks (from the relative voltage of the two traces shown) like current is leading voltage, which is precisely what you expect on a capacitor bank. I don't know what help it'd be trying to force current into phase with voltage on that side, given that the output is actually on the other winding, but, y'know, whatever makes you happy.What they are doing, though, is using the cap bank to produce a huge amount of reactive power. It will do that, naturally, and I think that's ultimately the point of the capacitors. They're throwing the caps across one set of windings, and it's generating a lot of VArs back into the machine, and also raising the voltage on those windings in order to support those VArs. Then, you take a semi-ignorant engineer or technician, who measures the current and voltage, multiplies, and, hey presto! Overunity! All this business about "resonance" is bunkum. They could put the same capacitors straight across the wall socket, and get similar results. (Well, not quite, since the reactive power would go back out the wall and into the power grid, but at any rate the rotating part of the machine is more for show than anything.)They're apparently clueful enough to realize that it's reactive power they're seeing, and to realize that the reactive power itself is pretty much useless in this context. So, trying to convert it to real power makes sense, assuming you don't understand how it comes into being, because if you did, you'd know that (a) the relation between the voltage and current is driven by the load, not the source alone, therefore you need to change the load to change the power factor; and (b) once you do change the load, you find that the reactive power doesn't turn into real power, but instead it just sort of vanishes. They are also apparently not clueful enough to realize that waving your hands carelessly around anything requiring a 20 kV probe, or involving an unguarded rotating shaft, is a bad idea.

I can say I am able to observe the reactive power (activity) disappear when I tune the L/C tank with a fluro light fora load due to
it's nature, the activity builds up to several hundred volts and a couple of amps or so before the fluro strikes into conduction
when the voltage drops to 100 v or less while the current remains similar. A couple to a few hundred "VAR's" just go "poof" and
disappear, while the output is only a couple to a few Watts of real power hundreds of "VAR's" vanish.

It also happens when a resistive load or an inductive load is placed across the tank in slightly different ways-amounts.
Without the resistive load activity can be in the hundreds of vars but with the resistive load no amount of tuning can produce
more than 70 or 80% of the input as dissipated energy or consumed power.

With an inductive load like a transformer the VAR's can be kept fairly high in the L/C tank feeding the transformer but not at the
same level as no load and the load on the transformer can only dissipate at most 70 to 80% of the total input as well.

It's very easy to produce high VAR's in a tank, then load the tank in different ways to observe these things first hand.

What is not so easy is producing results that will be considered valid to an engineer or similar. Simply put nothing shown
that is outside of accepted engineering type results without engineering standard tests and methods can be accepted,
and that is fair and right as we trust these people to make things safe for us..

.............

I find it hilarious that so many people think they will one day get a free energy device that outputs the energy needs of
their home for next to nothing while going against the laws of physics, considering those same people will be wanting
an electrician trained in the very laws they deny to come and install it even though he would not understand it and have
no way of understanding how he can install it safely without knowing how it produces it's power output. Simply ridiculous.

Unless you can legally connect it to the grid then it needs to be a stand alone system, something the FTW groups will never
show because it is impossible to do the way they claim. It could be a stand alone unit if it had a wind turbine or a generator
of electricity from environmental energy input to supply it be then it would be useless anyway.

The QEG itself has no mechanism to harness environmental energy. And there is no evidence to support that it can.

Zero Evidence !!!!!

.........

[PCB]

Hay guys I have to whisper, but I the happy go lucky troll,  has I think slayed that zero of a troglodyte. 

[PCB]

In the link you posted there is reference to a video that I do not recall seeing. But this guy did make the following observations from the video


I can say I am able to observe the reactive power (activity) disappear when I tune the L/C tank with a fluro light fora load due to
it's nature, the activity builds up to several hundred volts and a couple of amps or so before the fluro strikes into conduction
when the voltage drops to 100 v or less while the current remains similar. A couple to a few hundred "VAR's" just go "poof" and
disappear, while the output is only a couple to a few Watts of real power hundreds of "VAR's" vanish.

It also happens when a resistive load or an inductive load is placed across the tank in slightly different ways-amounts.
Without the resistive load activity can be in the hundreds of vars but with the resistive load no amount of tuning can produce
more than 70 or 80% of the input as dissipated energy or consumed power.

With an inductive load like a transformer the VAR's can be kept fairly high in the L/C tank feeding the transformer but not at the
same level as no load and the load on the transformer can only dissipate at most 70 to 80% of the total input as well.

It's very easy to produce high VAR's in a tank, then load the tank in different ways to observe these things first hand.

What is not so easy is producing results that will be considered valid to an engineer or similar. Simply put nothing shown
that is outside of accepted engineering type results without engineering standard tests and methods can be accepted,
and that is fair and right as we trust these people to make things safe for us..

.............

I find it hilarious that so many people think they will one day get a free energy device that outputs the energy needs of
their home for next to nothing while going against the laws of physics, considering those same people will be wanting
an electrician trained in the very laws they deny to come and install it even though he would not understand it and have
no way of understanding how he can install it safely without knowing how it produces it's power output. Simply ridiculous.

Unless you can legally connect it to the grid then it needs to be a stand alone system, something the FTW groups will never
show because it is impossible to do the way they claim. It could be a stand alone unit if it had a wind turbine or a generator
of electricity from environmental energy input to supply it be then it would be useless anyway.

The QEG itself has no mechanism to harness environmental energy. And there is no evidence to support that it can.

Zero Evidence !!!!!

.........

This is an important first hand account that you have posted here of ethereal VARs. I think this needs to be posted on be-do.com. Get the juices flowing again over there as it were, put the cat among the pigeons, and so on and so on ....  I'd be happy to do that if you would provide me with a brief introduction of the work you are doing.  A little background to provide context for this important observation.


Like MH. TK, me, and others have been saying, there is no magic here. This is really 2nd year electrical engineering stuff.

[PCB]

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[Farmhand]

Hi PCB, I'm just referring to my experiments form a month or so ago with the HF setup, I came to the conclusion that unless i could
show fairly accurate results I should show nothing, I don't need accurate measurements to know there is no extra energy, only to
show it. I can't spare the time yet still to get accurate results that will cost me a lot of time to discuss on the forum.

I should also say that of course when the Fluro strikes into conduction and a few hundred VAR's disappear the input also reduces
so it's obvious to me that the HF set up I have radiates quite a bit of power at full tilt with no load, about ten Watts in radiations very little heat to speak of so only possibility is radiations. It can make my head hurt, so I am wary of using it like that.

Except for radiations and heat the only other way the energy could escape when no load is present I can think of is stray
currents or ionization or something along those lines, I mean input from DC supply is say 1 Amp at 13 volts input with no output
but nothing gets hot enough to dissipate anywhere near that 13 Watts input to get high VAR's with no load, so to my thinking
about 10 Watts is being radiated or transferred out of the system by some mechanism.

So my question is.... Is that safe ? To be close enough to increase the input by approaching the setup with my hand means my
body is causing the setup to be more in tune and therefore I must conclude it might be possible that I'm part of the setup I'm
trying to measure. I'm not sure I;ll ever be able to get truly accurate measurements with my means.  No matter.

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