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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Walk along with  me to the playground. Now you are pushing a child on a swing. You push gently and the child moves up, and back. Each time the swing comes back, you give it another gentle push. The swing swings higher and even higher, but you notice that the intervals between pushes are always the same. Tick tock, another little push, the child goes higher and higher and begins to cry a little. Look! You know your physics and you know that the higher something is, the greater its _potential_ energy, and you know that if something travels further in the same time interval it must be going faster, and you know that the faster something goes the greater its _kinetic_ energy. But you have only been giving precisely timed little gentle pushes!

What is going on here? You are storing energy in a resonant system of high Q. The resonant frequency is determined by the length of the ropes holding the saddle of the swing... nothing else. The system is "integrating" the small gentle low-power pushes into a lot of stored energy. This energy is "circulating" in the same way that reactive power circulates in an RLC circuit. If the R is low and other factors favorable, the system won't dissipate this energy and it will build up and build up. As long as your gentle pushes are replacing the losses on a per-cycle basis, the energy will continue to build and build, until something breaks. When that something breaks, _all_ the stored energy is released, things break or explode or the child goes flying through the air. But you only ever fed it those gentle pushes that could never break anything!

Now it should be clear that you can take real power out of such a system only at a rate equal to your gentle pushing, if you want to keep it at a high energy state. Take out energy faster than it is being put in, and the amplitude of the resonant oscillations will decay... to use a technical term.

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F_Brown

Quote from: MileHigh on April 30, 2014, 09:19:51 PM
Thanks for the extra information.  The fact that you make the inductance value vary like a sine wave is very impressive, and of course it's presumably a much better approximation of what is taking place in the QEG than a step function.

When you switch to a variable mechanical inductor the answer as to what happens is essentially instantly available and seems obvious.  I already mentioned it.   Hint hint...  lol

Just for fun, let me see if I can get through doing it mathematically on 'paper.'   I am going to enter rarely visited waters...

The example circuit to analyze the problem is trivial - it's just an ideal inductor shorted by an ideal wire.

The formula for your inductance as a function of time:

L(t) =  (sin(omega * t) +2)     [inductance varies between 1 and 3 Henries]   Note - I am avoiding a divide-by-zero problem

Let's define the initial conditions and use something simple to illustrate the problem:  When the inductance is 3 henries, say the current is 5 amps.   That means you have 37.5 joules stored in the coil under these conditions.

Everything is ideal, so no energy is lost.   We just need to solve for the current as a function of inductance.  Since the inductance also varies with time, you effectively are also solving for the current as a function of time.   The voltage across the coil is always zero, and that may help us to simplify things.

Let's take a peek at how things look when the inductance is 1 henry.  You still have to have 37.5 joules stored in the inductor therefore the current has to be:

E = 1/2 L I^2
I^2 = 2E/L
I = sqrt(2E/L)

Therefore when L = 1 henry,  i = 8.66 amps.

You sort of have the time function right, although you have to keep in mind that parametric excitation only works for some thing like a tank circuit.  So, shorting the coil may be counter productive to elucidating the workings of the phenomenon.

MarkE

Inductance is perhaps not a very convenient parameter here for evaluating energy.  You may be better off using a B element to integrate MMF and flux density. 

ACG

Link to post will be at top: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/323-possible-rotor-construction-in-witts-generator#1296
Can this be confirmed?  Exciter coil is only needed for the first couple of weeks.  I am looking for the audio conference of this statement.  I only see the manual 3-25-2014 instruct to adjust the spark gap every few weeks.

How would that translate into hours?  A weeks time of 5,10,15 hours a day?  The manual where it states the exciter coil is used to conduct power from the quantum zero point into the core and this produces the over unity.  If exciter could be removed then what pray tell what would be the majority of the power production? 

I have yet to see a quantum exciter coil in the Morocco setup.  This is that very thing separating the QEG from any other contemporary generators.


F_Brown

Miles,

Pardon the short reply today, I was working on this.  Although first I made some images for you.  The first shows the parametric excitation in relation to the voltage across one primary at the onset of resonance.  The second is part of what I was working on today.  I tried to use FEMM in combination with my QEG SPICE model to calculate the torque on the rotor as a function of rotor angle through one full revolution.  After about 18 hours of work, I managed to generate a graph and integrate the area under the cure to get a total torque figure.  First off it's way too big, although it is interesting that it shows more area under the negative side than it does on the positive side. 

Anyway, here is my methodology in case someone can figure out where I went wrong.

My presumptions:

The peak inductance in the QEG corresponds to when the rotor is lined up with the stator poles.

I used the SPICE model to generate a graph of parametrically varied primary inductance vs primary current. (see image below).  I decided to try to generate a bunch of data points from peak inductance to peak inductance.  One half rotation of the rotor.  This is all that is necessary because of the symmetry of the device.  Basically that would be data would be every 2.5 degrees of the rotation and  indicate the primary current at the moment.

I then put each current data point into a DC FEMM analysis and get a torque figure for the rotor at that position and primary current.

After all that I put the torque figures into my numerical analysis application graphed the numbers and integrated the area under the curve(see image below).

It seems to me the torque figures are excessively high.  It integrated to some -304 N m for the total.  I think that means if the a big enough flywheel was attached to the QEG and it was put into motion, it would accelerate all by itself.  This much be wrong.