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Overunity Machines Forum



Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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F_Brown

Quote from: Hope on May 10, 2014, 01:13:17 PM

How does Neuman get so much work done with so little amperage? 


I think you are misunderstanding what Joseph Neuman actually did.  With the little input power he put into his machine, he failed to extract and do any real work with the energy oscillating in the machine.   He never power anything with it.  He just show people meters displaying the oscillating voltage and current in the system, and that as I explained previously though my examples of tank circuit spice simulations, can be very misleading if interpreted carelessly.

Now with the QEG, I have found ways in simulation to extract significant power from the primary circuit and do useful work with it.  That the QEG is capable of that is clear to me.  The question that still remains is how much power needs to be applied to the rotor of the QEG to get that amount of power out of it.  So far the best efficiency any replicator has reported is 0.35, and even that was reported without any details about just how that figure was determined.

Could you ask the replicators to be more forthcoming with their data and methods?

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Speaking of the IEEE do we have any members in the house.  I need a copy of a paper pulled.


MileHigh

Hope,

QuoteDC transmissions talk about limits due to wire gauge and resistance in the wire, yet how does that change when the same wire is used for AC transmission?   The problem is in the flawed DC theory,  not the wire.   Imbalance creates a need for nature to balance it and she DOES find a way (really many ways).

It's clear from your prose that you don't even know where the box is or what it looks like.  You can't say that something is flawed if you are ignorant about the subject matter.

It's the Indy 500 and the main driver for the racing team is sick and can't enter the race.  Joe Blow walks in off the street and says, "I drive an ice cream delivery truck, I'll drive!"

It doesn't work like that.

Pirate88179

Quote from: MileHigh on May 10, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
Hope,

It's clear from your prose that you don't even know where the box is or what it looks like.  You can't say that something is flawed if you are ignorant about the subject matter.

It's the Indy 500 and the main driver for the racing team is sick and can't enter the race.  Joe Blow walks in off the street and says, "I drive an ice cream delivery truck, I'll drive!"

It doesn't work like that.

What about Danny Sullivan?  He was a NY cab driver and won Indy.

But seriously, I totally agree with the point you made.  A solid foundation of knowledge of what has been done before is needed before one can speak about being "out of the box."  I am glad that guys like you, TK, .99 and Mark E. provide that for those of us still learning about what the box is.  Only then can we think out of it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

hartiberlin

Maybe it was meant good from Robitaille and Hopegirl to really bring something forward....
Maybe Robitaille  only did miscalculate his output power and in rushing this out they made
the mistakes by claiming something they never had also thinking they would have achieved the
same as the fake WITTS device, which does not work, cause it is powered by hidden 120 Volts AC wires...

The only way they still could maybe get OU is,
if they would try to use the
Aviso Konehead Coil Shorting Technolgy to chop the output current into spikes and then use the BackEMF to collect the
output energy via bridge rectifiers...

Only then you can violate the Lenz law and thus might get OU...
with the normal output coils as they have it now, you can not violate Lenz, as the output current
drags the rotor down...

I would highly advise the people experimenting with the QEG to try this.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

F_Brown

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 10, 2014, 05:45:54 PM

Only then you can violate the Lenz law and thus might get OU...
with the normal output coils as they have it now, you can not violate Lenz, as the output current
drags the rotor down...

I would highly advise the people experimenting with the QEG to try this.

Regards, Stefan.

I tend to doubt Lenz drag will be the most significant factor in the loading of the system driving the QEG.  From my analysis so far, it appears that the fundamental mechanism for loading the system driving the QEG will be cogging torque.  That is the amount of power required to pull the rotor away from a pole.  The more the current in the primary circuit of the QEG builds, the more strongly the poles attract the rotor, and the more power it requires to move the rotor away from the poles. 

There will be some drag created by eddy currents in the laminations of the rotor, although as I have mentioned before those laminations are designed to minimize the formation of eddy currents.  Because the rotor is devoid of windings by design, and because armature windings are the primary source of Lenz drag in electric machines, I expect the cogging torque in the QEG to be many times greater then the Lenz drag created by any eddy currents that form in the rotor. 

In any case core losses in M19 24 gauge laminations is listed at 2 watt/lbs when the material is driven to 10,000 Gauss at 60Hz.  This figure includes both hysteresis and eddy current losses.  In a previous post I believe I mentioned that I estimated the core loss figure for the M19 material operating at 400Hz to be in the range of 12 to 15 W/lbs.  That would put the core loss figure for the entire 72.6 lbs QEG core in the range of 871 to 1089 watts.   

I now have all the information needed to construct the multi-dimensional interpolation tables required for my QEG SPICE Model 2.0.  This new model will be able to calculate input power as well as output power for the QEG.

Stayed tuned, same OU forum, same OU thread...