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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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jbignes5

 Luc my friend you are seeing the reflection of the magnet in the compass and not any residual magnetism in the steel. Try attaching a very very small piece of iron to the rotor parts that will tell you if there is any residual magnetism in them. See this is the misdirection people employ to discredit findings. Very bad test indeed...

FYI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ

Some descriptions from the originators. And this might let you see I was correct at my guess. I just found this video even though it came out on april 3rd.

iflewmyown

Luc,
   I am the guy that PMed Woopy about striking the transformer. In my best tests last night I obtained 481 volts from the secondary winding of a 17 pound microwave oven transformer from a 1978 Sharp microwave. I used a 2 1/2 pound rod of hardened steel. Results can be obtained from striking anywhere on the laminations in any direction. The steel is not magnetic but I am aware that the core could be shifting in the bobbin although I can not detect and movement and I have the equipment to do that. Just to be sure I tried a second transformer from an old oscilloscope which have visible runs of hardened varnish still dripped all over it. The winding has taps for 130 120 110 24 12 volt. It weighs about 1.5 lbs and is about the size of my hand. The best it has produced is 108 volts. I have an old choke about the same size with only one winding that makes 10 volts every time.
    Using the microwave transformer I hooked a neon bulb across the secondary and it will blink long enough to see easily. The scope shows six or seven breaks each hit at about 170 volts.
    The first spike wave lasts almost always 250 us.
     When I strike the laminations I use a good blow but power is not as useful as sharpness. Think of striking a bell.
     I am not disputing anyone's results only saying the effect is very interesting to me.
Garry

Farmhand

Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 03:27:29 PM

Except there is a coil on the rotor. And this was my suggestion.


Actually the roots of any of these patents is this:  http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-390,721-dynamo-electric-machine


               and                                                        :  http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-445,207-electro-magnetic-motor




There are a huge amount of these produced by Tesla and others.
With the first example being the unit presented in sections. All of the sections can be built into the Exciter/Generator/Motor unit. EGM for short.



Here is a quote of note in the first patent:


"My present invention relates, chiefly, to the alternating-current system invented by me and described in prior patents, notably Nos. 381,968 and 382,280, of May 1, 1888, in which the motors or transformers, or generally the converters, are operated by a progressive shifting or movement of their magnetic poles produced by the co-operative action of independent magnetizing-coils through which pass alternating currents in proper order and direction. In my said system, as I have heretofore shown, I employed a generator of alternating currents in which there were independent induced or generating coils corresponding to the energizing-coils of the converter, and the relations of the generator and converters were generally such that the speed of rotation of the magnetic poles of the converter equaled that of the armature of the generator.To secure the greatest efficiency, it is necessary to run the machines at a high speed, and this is true not only of those generators and motors which are particularly adapted for use in my system, but of others. The practicability of running at very high speeds, however, particularly in the case of large generators, is limited by mechanical conditions, in seeking to avoid which I have devised various plans for operating the system under efficient conditions, although running the generator at a comparatively low rate of speed.
My present invention consists of another way of accomplishing this result, which in certain respects presents many advantages. According to the invention, in lieu of driving the armature of the generator at a high rate of speed, I produce a rotation of the magnetic poles of one element of the generator and drive the other at a different speed, by which similar results are obtained to those secured by a rapid rotation of one of the elements."

There are a huge amount of these produced by Tesla and others. Yes and built to the patent and not one single report of OU generation. I'm not sure but I think the Tesla AC generator system as seen in the 390721 patent was produced in Australia for the Southern Cross company and sold to farms ect., driven by diesel engines or tractors pto drives or by belts from steam engines. If that system was OU we would not be here talking. Seriously.

If I make some steel blocks for between the coils on one of my four coil toroids and make a rotor bar I can have a QEG setup. My best guess is that it would consume more power from the excitation and driving the motor than is dissipated in the output.

Anyone showing any different yet ?

Cheers

P.S. I think the sound SeaMonkey refers to is a 400 Hz hum. But I can't say for sure I've never served in the military.

..

MileHigh

Jbignes5:

It is indeed possible that the compass magnet itself is causing the deflection.  Also, it's undetermined if a small piece of metal will show any residual magnetism because the field can be very weak.

QuoteSee this is the misdirection people employ to discredit findings. Very bad test indeed...

You should stop this.  There is no misdirection employed nor is there any intention to discredit findings.  It is a perfectly good test to make.  This is all in your head and you should get over it.  I have indeed stated that I do not expect anything to come from HopeGirl and the QEG project based on my experience.  But Luc's test is a completely different thing and the suggestions are real and done with good intentions.

What almost always happens is that there is a peer pressure to try to use every observation to support the latest free energy proposition.  This is done without doing any due diligence and checking of measurements, considering other explanations, doing or inventing other tests to check hypotheses, etc.  That is the wrong way to experiment and do investigations.  This idea that you put on blinders and use tunnel vision to reach your objective is just plain wrong.

Take a look at the "delayed Lenz effect" as an example.  It's almost certain that everybody got that one wrong.  Farmhand pointed out the problems with that notion over a year ago and more recently Conradelectro replicated it.  We looked at the power dissipation in the pick-up coil and realized that when you add the load resistor the power dissipated in the pick-up coil goes down and therefore rotor speeds up.  The problem is that people replicated it, saw what they were expecting to see, and "confirmed" that there was a "delayed Lenz effect."  I am pretty sure nearly none of them made the total power dissipation measurements in the pick-up coil before and after adding the load resistor.

And I know Luc that you may have originated the "delayed Lenz" tests but there is no offense intended.  It's all just part of a learning experience.  If anybody is going to experiment with electronics you can just about never stop learning.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Luc, Gyula,

Guyla made some very interesting comments about the core saturation and effects of the light bulbs.  Those could indeed be a possible explanation for the observations.  It would be a bit tricky to make more tests to confirm or deny these ideas, all part of the fun.

In the second clip you can see that the LC resonator is slowly being "filled" as the motor runs.  Every time the rotor makes a pass, a small amount of new energy is being added to the LC tank circuit.

My thoughts are that there is a stronger magnetic force in the gap when the "I" lines up with the "E" as the energy in the LC tank goes up.  So as the peak-to-peak voltage gets high, the current gets high, the magnetic force gets high, and the rotor bends to the point it starts to hit the MOT.  At the same time, the smaller the gap gets because of the bending, the more pronounced the effective inductance modulation becomes.  Likewise, if there is residual magnetization, the more modulated the residual magnetic flux gets.  That would put more available energy into each EMF pulse that adds energy to the LC tank circuit.

There are also mechanical resonances that may come into play.  The rotor has a front-to-back "wobble" resonance also.  It may be that the on-off attraction forces associated with the gap make the rotor wobble close to it's resonant frequency.  By the same token, the motor itself may be making the rotor wobble.

So mechanical resonance is another possibility to explain the phenomenon.  It might be mechanical resonance that is excited either by the RPM of the physical motor itself, or it might be mechanical resonance excited by the on-off attraction of the rotor to the MOT.

MileHigh