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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Angelic

Hi, Just a little help needed here. And yes I know this has been discuss in many places. But some times when the terms "overunity ad Cop show up in our discussion it gives me pause. Just to make sure of what is being discussed and compared with the QEG. Below is some thing I copied off the web. Please tell me how this measures up as an explanation between the two.And how if any they belong together. I am just tying to get a basic understanding of the differences in my head.
Thanks :-[


Overunity is not talking about efficiency, and especially not an efficiency greater than 100%. Overunity refers to a system with a COP>1. COP is not the same thing as efficiency because efficiency takes into consideration all of the energy input into a system while COP only takes into consideration the energy input by the operator and not energy input by the environment. Therefore, in a system where some or all of the energy is provided by the environment, it is entirely possible for the COP of the system to be greater than 1, even though its efficiency will always be less than 100%

MarkE

Quote from: Angelic on May 23, 2014, 05:06:28 AM
Hi, Just a little help needed here. And yes I know this has been discuss in many places. But some times when the terms "overunity ad Cop show up in our discussion it gives me pause. Just to make sure of what is being discussed and compared with the QEG. Below is some thing I copied off the web. Please tell me how this measures up as an explanation between the two.And how if any they belong together. I am just tying to get a basic understanding of the differences in my head.
Thanks :-[


Overunity is not talking about efficiency, and especially not an efficiency greater than 100%. Overunity refers to a system with a COP>1. COP is not the same thing as efficiency because efficiency takes into consideration all of the energy input into a system while COP only takes into consideration the energy input by the operator and not energy input by the environment. Therefore, in a system where some or all of the energy is provided by the environment, it is entirely possible for the COP of the system to be greater than 1, even though its efficiency will always be less than 100%
Over unity is where the apparent output energy exceeds the sum of the apparent input and consumed internal energies.  Many ordinary things have COPs or apparent COPs > 1:  heat pumps, primary batteries, wind, solar, hydro, geothermal, and even fossil fuels. 

If the First Law of Thermodynamics holds then anything that looks like it is over unity will eventually be shown to have an efficiency of less than 100%.  Today, we cannot know such a thing for certain no matter how likely that is.  If someone discovers a cheat on the First Law, or if they discover a new cheap, ubiquitous and clean energy source the impacts are still the same and still what folks here would like to see.

chrisC

Quote from: Johan_1955 on May 23, 2014, 02:19:32 AM

Dear MH, why a NickName??


Are you talking here out of hands-on knowledge / experience based, or religion-like / writings based?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AkApUyOcEg


But thanking you truly for time, and intentions!


Regards, Johan


@Johan:
Thanks for posting your contraption. Care to educate us more on it's merits?


btw, this public forum like others contain the usual number of statistics - 'experts' who tells you they know it all, 'seekers' of information, 'teachers' who wants to teach and of course 'builders' who wants to build and 'mockers' who will always believe the status quo. My take is very simple, the truth will come out and people should be mindful of fakes but they should never totally say they know everything! On the internet you can use any nickname and still be a dog and no one will know!
cheers,
chrisC


MarkE

The truth does always come out.  It is immune to opinion.

Johan_1955

Quote from: chrisC on May 23, 2014, 11:34:20 AM

@Johan:
Thanks for posting your contraption. Care to educate us more on it's merits?


btw, this public forum like others contain the usual number of statistics - 'experts' who tells you they know it all, 'seekers' of information, 'teachers' who wants to teach and of course 'builders' who wants to build and 'mockers' who will always believe the status quo. My take is very simple, the truth will come out and people should be mindful of fakes but they should never totally say they know everything! On the internet you can use any nickname and still be a dog and no one will know!
cheers,
chrisC


Hi Chris,


Did do this RV awhile ago, its for me lots of KG's for a bit of Power, and that should than run 24/7!? :-((
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Drive is a 3ph Inverter, but only 2ph wires of 220vac to a 3ph 380vac Motor on Delta 220vac, 0.33Kw, 1380r/m, and small cap making the 3e ph.


Gen. is 220vac SinglePh, 1.5Kw, 1340r/m, load is on the Main and Sec. coils, with switches to get it going.
Main-Coil load was 4 lamps total 300w, and Cap + switch.
Secondary-Coil load, was Heating-Element, with a Cap in serie, and Short switch over the Heating-Element.


Later with some adjustable Triac's, it was a bit more easy to adjust the load to the different frequency's.


Can say its real working, only the Output low, would be a big installation in KG if you want the needed KW's, and that than a 24/7 and ~8000 hours a year. But I never did try the other halve-wave Diode solutions?


Regards, Johan