Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

It sounds like a capacitor blew up in your desktop's power supply.  That's a very common thing.  You are probably aware that power supplies can range from very cheap ($20 USD) to very expensive ($350 USD).  I would recommend that you try replacing the power supply with a relatively cheap one.  If you are a bit of a nerd you might already have one lying around.

All:

Okay I got through the clip.  They talk about a "big announcement" but there is none.  Jamie admits that he is not an engineer.  He is working in parallel with Larry of Tesla Energy Solutions.  I think it's Larry in the beginning of the clip that I quote in my earlier posting.  Larry and Jamie have separate and nearly identical setups.  The "announcement" is that they are focusing on the "two other resonances" to "increase the voltage output."  They are the mechanical resonance of the core, and the separate external resonator with the spark gap.  In other words, the same old stuff that we have been aware of from the beginning.  Naturally, no real measurements of the output power have been made with the additional sources of resonance.  It's just awful.

For the resonance of the core, the alleged "piezo effect" - that will not magically produce extra output power, period.  But, no measurements yet!

For the external coil plus spark gap, Jamie is encouraged because he is seeing "bigger voltage spikes."  Big deal, and no measurements yet!

Then, we enter into the realm of the Three Stooges.  Larry has a hunch that a "Brooks coil" configuration for the external coil will be the "key" so they are going to try that.  Jamie seems okay with that approach.  Jamie is building his Brooks coil and presumably Larry is doing the same thing.

Here is the problem:  A "Brooks coil" configuration is meaningless, absolutely meaningless relative to what they are doing.  All that a Brooks coil is is the configuration that gives you the most inductance for a given amount of wire.  You could have a non-Brooks coil, a "regular coil" and just add a few more turns of wire to give you the same inductance as the Brooks coil configuration.  Hence, making a Brooks coil is meaningless.

I am pretty sure that Jamie mentioned that this initiative came from Larry.  I can read between the lines here with quite a bit of confidence.  Larry is just chasing after the same pipe dreams that you see from the amateur experimenters on the free energy forums that are beginners and barely know what they are doing.  They will often say, "try a Brooks coil configuration" as if it actually means something.  Larry is doing he same thing for the same reason; he barely knows what he is doing.  He blindly believes that the "maximum inductance must be good" and therefore he wants to try out a Brooks coil configuration.  This is the Two Stooges instead of the Three Stooges.

If I was still working on a bench and Larry was the new hire as a support technician, Larry would not last more than an hour before he would be sent packing.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Finally, out of frustration, I am going to post myself, dammit.  This was posted by "Shean" on Be-Do, sorry I forget his name on this forum.  Thank you for concatenating all of my YouTube postings and posting them on the Be-Do fourm.

This is the type of discussion between Jamie and Larry that should be happening:  (However based on what I have seen they are not capable of doing what I am suggesting below.)

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Why do the light bulbs brighten when the spark gaps engages?   Here is a possible explanation:

For starters, it doesn't matter if you have increasing flux increasing a coil voltage output, or decreasing flux increasing a coil voltage output.  The only thing that counts is the rate of change of the flux with respect to time.  i.e.; shorting the primary coil from the spark gap event rapidly decreases the magnetic energy in the core and other "agents" (coils) want to parasitically "take advantage" of that event.  So the basic premise is that the spark gap engages and creates a very low resistance quasi short circuit across the primary.  That creates a rapid decrease in the flux through the core.  Any other coils wrapped around the core will also see that flux change and hence produce an increased voltage output.  So it's almost like the secondary coil is "hitching a ride" on the spark gap event.

In more basic technical terms, lets say you have a core with AC flux going through it provided by a separate drive coil and three pick-up coils wrapped around the core, L1, L2, and L3.  Each one of those coils has a load resistance R1, R2, and R3.   So the question is where does the AC power go?  Each coil + load resistor coil will have an associated AC impedance.  The lowest AC impedance will dissipate more power than the highest AC impedance.  The source power is split or cut into three loads, like three pie slices.  The same thing will apply to the QEG between the spark gap load and associated primary coils and the light bulb load and associated secondary coils.

Going back to the QEG and the Montreal group, the spark gap event is simply an AC transient event that initiates the dissipation of the energy in the core.  The energy in the core is split into two pie slices, one slice goes to the spark gap event, the other slice goes to the light bulb load.

So you can see the analysis "forgets" about various external events in a sense.  The only thing that you need to know is the spark gap event starts to rapidly suck the magnetic energy out of the core and the secondary coils that drive the light bulb load "parasitically" take advantage of that fact and grab their own slice of the available energy.

Now of course you have the rotating QEG rotor redirecting the flux in the core, bla, bla, bla.  So the actual timing analysis could be done to confirm the "top level" explanation for what is happening to cause the light bulbs to momentarily increase in brightness.


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Hi Kevin,   Permit me to give you and your engineering team some very basic and sound advice.
The fist thing you need is a comprehensive timing diagram of your QEG when it is in resonance and powering the light bulb load.  So you start constructing a diagram where you have the voltage waveform across the primary.  I am assuming that there is a current sensing resistor in the primary circuit also, so you plot the primary current under the voltage waveform.  Even if there isn't a current sensing resistor in the circuit, the direct voltage measurement across the capacitor bank can be used to derive the current waveform in the primary circuit.  Then you add the voltage and current waveforms across the secondary - the light bulb load.  You are just starting to build up a comprehensive timing diagram that describes the behaviour of the QEG at resonance.
Where is the rotor when all this is happening?  More specifically, what is the angle of the rotor relative to the aforementioned waveforms?  This is absolutely critical information.  It has to be added to the timing diagram.  The way you do that is either by adding some kind of optical trigger to the rotor, or by adding a tiny tiny little magnet to the rotor with Karzy Glue or something.  Then you put a small sensor coil that registers the passing of the tiny magnet.  Either way, you create a "tick" signal once per revolution.  Voila, based on that tick signal you can then know the precise angle of your flux-redirecting rotor relative to the rest of the waveforms.  Now you can plot the rotor angle on your timing diagram.  It looks like a sawtooth waveform.

Okay, so now you have a timing diagram that shows rotor angle, primary voltage and current, and secondary voltage and current.   What else do you need?

When it comes to a timing diagram describing the operation of an electronic circuit, the more information the merrier.

So, now that you know the precise rotor angle as the QEG operates, you now know how much the rotor is aligned with the two pairs of "poles" that form the core.  These poles are critical because they determine the coupling and the magnetic flux redirection between the spinning rotor and the and the main QEG toroid.  So you plot the "A" and "B" pole "coupling factor" in the timing diagram.  There is no scope waveform for this.  You just do it by looking at the physical build of the QEG and creating the "rotor to pole coupling factor" waveform.  Part of the rotation cycle couples the rotor to the "A" pair of poles, and part of the rotation cycle couples the rotor to the "B" pair of poles.

Okay, now that you have done that, you need to plot the actual flux through the four distinct quadrants of the core and put that in proper alignment with all of the other waveforms on your timing diagram.  Note ALL of this can be done with a pencil and paper on simple graph paper.  You can then photograph it and share it publicly with everyone involved in this "open source" project.  Alternatively, you use some kind of software waveform editing program or do it in some other shareable digital format.

Okay back to the flux waveforms.  There are four quadrants to the QEG core, two with primary coils, and two with secondary coils.  For each quadrant you simply wrap say five turns of wire around the core.  Those are your four "flux sensor coils."  You record the waveforms for each of those flux sensor coils and you add them to your timing diagram.  Everything always has to be lined up in time.  That means whenever you record a waveform, you always have a "reference waveform" on a scope channel.  For example, you could always use your primary voltage waveform as the reference waveform.

You see what we are doing here?  This is like mixing a 16-track song in a recording studio.   We are laying down tracks.  Once all of the tracks are laid down then you get the "Big Picture" and you can see the innards of how the QEG actually works.

Okay, now back to the issue of the flux waveforms.  This is probably the most critical component for understanding what the QEG is doing.  I mentioned that you record the four waveforms from the voltage sensor coils, one per quadrant of the QEG core.  The voltage waveforms from the four sensor coils are NOT the flux waveforms.  They are the "first derivative with respect to time" of the flux in the core.  That means that you have to integrate on those waveforms to see the flux waveform.  One more time, you don't have to go high tech for this.  Any engineer should be able to do an "eyeball integration" on those waveforms on a piece of graph paper, as an example.  You don't need precision on the absolute magnitude of the flux.  As long as the four flux waveforms are reasonably okay with respect to the "eyeball integration"  (you could also do it digitally if you wanted to) then you should be fine.

Now look where we are:  You know the position of the rotor, you know how much the rotor is coupling with the "A" and "B" pole sets, you know approximately how much magnetic flux is flowing through each of the four quadrants of the QEG core, you know the DIRECTION of the four fluxes, and you know the voltages and currents in the primary and secondary circuits.  This is all when the QEG is in resonance and driving the light bulb load.  At this point nothing is stopping you from "adding more tracks" to the timing diagram showing the actual power flows, or you could add a waveform that shows you the amount of energy in the capacitor bank, as an example.  Well, if you look at the energy in the capacitor bank decreasing, that means that power is flowing out of the capacitor bank.  So you could make a waveform for the "power flow in and out of the capacitor bank" if you wanted to.   Naturally, you can apply your knowledge and make other power flow waveforms if you wanted to.

So what about the rotor itself?  Well, you know the angle of the rotor at any point in time.  You know how much the rotor is overlapping with the "A" and "B" pole sets at any point in time.  You also know the approximate amount of flux, and the direction of the flux, for each of the four quadrants of the QEG core at any point in time.   You also know that the primary function of the rotor is to redirect the flux in the QEG core.  So you have enough information to at least take a crack at determining what the flux flow is through the spinning rotor itself.  You can't directly measure it, but you know what angle it is at at any given point in time and you know what's happening with flux all around the spinning rotor.  With some staring at the waveforms and some thinking, you should be able to make a decent deduction of the flux flow and flux direction in the rotor itself.

If you do all of that, and have a multi-track timing diagram for the QEG in resonance driving the light bulb load, then you are basically able to see how the thing operates,  You now have a "naked" QEG with all of the "hidden variables" exposed.

Now let's go back to the issue of the light bulbs getting brighter when the spark gap engages.  Obviously, you now have a reference to work from.   You can look at certain waveforms when the spark gap engages by setting up a trigger on your digital scope.   Exactly why the light bulbs get brighter will be very obvious now that you actually understand what the QEG is doing at resonance.  The solution to what happens will "fall out" of the waveforms that you record from the spark gap event.  For example, I said that the magnetic flux in the core may drop sharply when the spark gap engages.  The two flux sensor coils that are wrapped around the two quadrants of the QEG core that drive the secondary windings will show you that happening, if my assumption is correct.  What about the flux in the QEG core quadrants that correspond to the primary coils.  You want to look at those also to see what is happening there when the spark gap engages.

One final comment, is that this whole process of generating a "multi-track" timing diagram for your QEG requires that you have a 100% accurate schematic of your setup.  The timing diagram is all relative to the schematic diagram.  An engineer can look at the timing diagram and the schematic and understand EXACTLY what is going on under the hood of the QEG.

What about the next step beyond, the search for over unity?  Well, as you play with the QEG and it's supposed to show you over unity, then it MUST show you increasing amounts of magnetic flux in the quadrants of the core that are responsible for driving the light bulb load.  You have to observe this, there is no magic here.  A 10-kilowatt load MUST BE driven by MASSIVE amounts of changing magnetic flux in the two quadrants of the core that are used to drive the secondary.  There is no escaping this.
[The following comments are a hypothetical to make you guys think:] Then you can say to yourself:  Now we understand the QEG timing diagram, we know that flux that goes to the secondary parts of the QEG core come from the primary parts of the QEG core assisted by the rotating rotor.  Therefore we also must gave massive amounts of changing flux in the primary, etc, etc.

Finally, Kevin, let's suppose the engineering team does a great timing diagram.  Before they start to hunt for over unity, they have to understand the power flows when at resonance and driving the light bulb load.  How can you expect to get to over unity if you don't even understand how the power works at "unity" when you are in resonance driving the light bulb load?  Also, where is a all the "missing" power going when driving the light bulb load.  One more time, the timing diagram is the key to understanding all of this.  You MUST measure the resistances of all of the coils in the QEG.  Then, you can plot the I-squared-R resistive losses on the timing diagram.  You are going to be surprised, there are going to be certain ranges of angle in the 360 degree rotation of the rotor where the coils have very high currents flowing through them and that should be the main cause of your 70% loss to waste heat as the QEG drives the light bulbs.  You know the rotor is supplying rotational mechanical energy to the QEG and it is being converted into electrical energy.  Look at the timing diagram carefully, can you see at what angles of rotation of the rotor where it appears that you are seeing an injection of electrical energy into the system?  You are looking for the "transformer process" where mechanical energy is transformed into electrical energy.  Where, when, and how is this transformer process taking place?  You MUST understand the energy dynamics of the QEG at resonance driving the light bulb load before you take any steps to hunt for over unity.  Your setup might be getting 500 watts of mechanical power that is being pumped into the rotor.  Only 200 watts might be going to the light bulb load.  Analysis of the timing diagram and careful supplementary investigations with your scope and applying your engineering knowledge should allow you to account for the mechanism that converts mechanical energy into electrical energy to the load, and where all the supplied mechanical energy becomes electrical energy that becomes waste heat energy.  All of this information is in the timing diagram.  You just have to apply yourselves to find it.   

[TinselKoala]

It's a Cargo Cult of pseudoscience, and Jamie is John Frum.

I had to stop, from laughing so much,  when they lit up the little light bulb with the invisible wires, claiming "transferring voltage without current". Neither one of them actually understands how and why the light bulb lights up from their "Tesla hairpin" setup. And it's a miracle they haven't electrocuted themselves or the cat with the lack of respect they show for high voltage apparatus. I survived my HV accident, barely, but one do-over is all I get. Will they?

I didn't get as far as the Brooks coil stuff. Have they abandoned the teachings of their hero Nikola Tesla, then?

Of course they didn't show any measurements. Did you really think they would? Measurements prove the futility of their cargo cult rituals and posturings. I am so happy that they choose to publish silly videos like this because with every one they do, more and more of their fanbase will come to realize that these people have no clue, that they lied blatantly over and over about having something that worked, and that they will never attain anything like what they promised, and _still_  claim and promise, in the plans and instructions and FAQs and etc.

MH,  I have the feeling that those folks wouldn't even have made it as far as your workbench, they'd fail the initial interview. "RMS? Yeah, I loved their music, too bad the drummer died."

[minnie]

  Couldn't watch the video for long it was so painful!
  Decided to sell my Shopvac, it's only gathering dust.
                  John.

[MarkE]

It's a Cargo Cult of pseudoscience, and Jamie is John Frum.

I had to stop, from laughing so much,  when they lit up the little light bulb with the invisible wires, claiming "transferring voltage without current". Neither one of them actually understands how and why the light bulb lights up from their "Tesla hairpin" setup. And it's a miracle they haven't electrocuted themselves or the cat with the lack of respect they show for high voltage apparatus. I survived my HV accident, barely, but one do-over is all I get. Will they?

I didn't get as far as the Brooks coil stuff. Have they abandoned the teachings of their hero Nikola Tesla, then?

Of course they didn't show any measurements. Did you really think they would? Measurements prove the futility of their cargo cult rituals and posturings. I am so happy that they choose to publish silly videos like this because with every one they do, more and more of their fanbase will come to realize that these people have no clue, that they lied blatantly over and over about having something that worked, and that they will never attain anything like what they promised, and _still_  claim and promise, in the plans and instructions and FAQs and etc.

MH,  I have the feeling that those folks wouldn't even have made it as far as your workbench, they'd fail the initial interview. "RMS? Yeah, I loved their music, too bad the drummer died."

When did the drummer of RMS die?  I didn't even know that he was sick.