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Raising curent with short circuit ?
The question is to know what is the internal resistance, before and after the raising.
If after there is less internal (or the same in 1 hour for exemple) resistance than before it is realy intersting.

[Allwest]

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Hi Allwest,
sorry, the last video is set to private, youi have to set it to
unlisted, so also we can see it.
Try it now I just made it public

Well, I have never seen a crystal cell raising the shortcircuit current over time...

Does you cell get hot, when it does it ? That might explain the ampere rising...
As you know these cells can take a charge to greater levels of current, above 1 Amp, this very interesting in it self but the levels of current drop off like a normal battery
A rechargeable magnesium battery
What really interest me now is what happens to the cell when it bottoms out (this is what this video is about)
In this video the cell is not hot to the touch, this is what happens to all the cells at this point, when they are on a long short circuit test
They go down to a certain point and then just hang, after this, they fluctuate with the surrounding temperature,   I am sure it is self generating a little heat causing a temperature differential btween the copper and magnesium creating a TEG device, this is were I believe the galvanic action of the cell is void 

Hmm... maybe you can do the ultimate test and use 8 cells in series =12 Volts output and power a 12 Volt 1 to 3 Watts
LED bulb with it and show us, how bright you get it ? this will be easy fun when I get some time

Looking forwad to a test to really see the power of these cells.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Allwest]

This is a continuation of the last video, 33 hours still putting out power holding, (shorted)
unlisted video, see link below 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfveaHOfm7E

After this I am going to put the cell on a trickle charge and see what happens

If any of you have not tried charging a cell like this, let me give you what I have found
When you charge it for any length of time and put it on the meter after the charge, the cell will most times read 6 Ma then go down to 1 or 0 Ma and stay there for awhile
After awhile being shorted on the meter the power will start climbing slowly at first then take off for the moon

When I was first starting to work on charging these cells I was very frustrated after a charge to have the power levels just go down to 0, until one day I left it on and came back to see the power level way up, other information on charging these cells if wanted

Also, if anybody has any ideas on how to charge these things, please make comments

Good luck to All


   

[Andy Shell]

I have an Al, Cu cell that will triple in output current over 15-30min of being shorted out. I'll have to post the video of it this weekend.

From what I have compiled it is less likely a TEG and more likely heat &/or venting hydrogen is the byproduct of a chemical reaction between the anode and electrolytic causing an increase in current output. We can't rule out TEG but I've done extensive tests wet and dry & I have had this happen with and without cell temp increase. To claim TEG, I would like a scientific explanation of how the electrolytic is turning heat into current flow on an atomic/molecular level. Thats all.

Also, this high voltage anomoly is worth looking into. I suspect the extra 0.4v of the 1.8v is a result of bending the Mg ribbon into a U shape but wont know until I test it this weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cxcAdVgqQ


Andy

[Allwest]

Very nice Voltage Andy

I have noticed a trade off in these types of cells, very high voltage and very low amps

Or the reverse

Good luck